Dude jumps without a parachute...? And lands in a net?

08-01-16, 12:24 PM

By the way, this is the net used. Look at the size. The dimensions.
Man, I can't wait until the military will use this to drop airborne brigades - but after all, I don't know what is possible or not -> only August does!

Dowly · 08-01-16, 12:38 PM

^ Yup, that's the problem. If you can get all the needed equipment in there in preparation for the paras, then you could just as well drive the paras there in the first place.

08-01-16, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

^ Yup, that's the problem. If you can get all the needed equipment in there in preparation for the paras, then you could just as well drive the paras there in the first place.

Can you please refrain from bringing your venomous common sense and logic into this beautiful land of wonders, yes?
You are disturbing the infantile fantasies and feelings of some people, that is not allowed, you don't know what is possible or not!
Thank you!

August · 08-01-16, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I don't know what is possible or not -> only August does!

Funny up to now you've been claiming that it is NOT possible. How did you put it? Fantasy, nonsensical?, and now you "don't know what is possible or not".

08-01-16, 12:57 PM

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Funny up to now you've been claiming that it is NOT possible. How did you put it? Fantasy, nonsensical?, and now you "don't know what is possible or not".

*facepalm*
Oh August...

August · 08-01-16, 01:25 PM

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*facepalm*

Do it again but harder this time.

08-01-16, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Do it again but harder this time.

To end up like you?
No, thanks.

@Betonov
Nothing the guy did helped in any way or made anything clearer.
Of course one can jump into a net from whatever height - just no one did it before for rather obvious reasons.
Explain to me what we know now that we didn't know before, please?

And again, combat jumps aren't conducted anymore.
No air superiority -> no airborne operations.

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Originally Posted by Betonov

The final stop method could use work. Nets are unpractical.
Unless you already have a beachead established and you're landing reinforcements.

Well then why not just land or drop them via plane/parachute?!

Betonov · 08-01-16, 02:12 PM

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@Betonov
Nothing the guy did helped in any way or made anything clearer.
.

Maybe not for you.
Maybe not for me.
But maybe smart people are going trough any data he might have produced.

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Well then why not just land or drop them via plane/parachute?!

Because a paratrooper is a large clay pigeon under an even bigger piece of cloth that has a tendency to fail if perfurated by bullets.
The longer the soldier manages not to open the chute, the longer he is a veeeeeeeery hard target to hit and track.

Dowly · 08-01-16, 02:17 PM

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But maybe smart people are going trough any data he might have produced.

I would imagine a lot of calculations were done to make the jump as safe as possible. Calculations based on data we already know.

Oberon · 08-01-16, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Because a paratrooper is a large clay pigeon under an even bigger piece of cloth that has a tendency to fail if perfurated by bullets.
The longer the soldier manages not to open the chute, the longer he is a veeeeeeeery hard target to hit and track.

Even with HALO jumps, the trooper still has to open the chute at a high enough altitude to arrest his fall before he hits the dirt, and that means that radar will detect it. Which means there are two (at least) potential solutions, find some method to make the parachute RCS as small or non-existent as possible, or create a different way to arrest the fall of the trooper before he hits the deck.

August · 08-01-16, 02:20 PM

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And again, combat jumps aren't conducted anymore.

Wrong Mr. Expert. The 173rd Airborne Brigade jumped into Northern Iraq on 26 march 2003 - 969 Jumpers. Every single one of them got a combat star for their jump wings, but of course you know better...

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No air superiority -> no airborne operations.

That has always been the case, even during WW2.

08-01-16, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Wrong Mr. Expert. The 173rd Airborne Brigade jumped into Northern Iraq on 26 march 2003 - 969 Jumpers. Every single one of them got a combat star for their jump wings, but of course you know better...

That has always been the case, even during WW2.

That jump was LATER classified as a "combat jump" although(!) it was conducted onto an airfield that was HELD BY COALITION FORCES!

Classic August!

Betonov · 08-01-16, 01:00 PM

They wont drop troops in nets. Thats stupid.
But they will use the technology the guy used to slow his descent so he survived the sudden deceleration in hitting the net, to enable paratroopers to deploy chutes a lot later making them clay pigeons for a lot shorter time.
Not to mention the tech and know how of hitting that net from that altitude will enable more accurate drops.

God, you're all fixated on that net like me on redheads.

August · 08-01-16, 01:32 PM

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God, you're all fixated on that net like me on redheads.

Of course they did, just like those who took a look at the Wright Brothers plane and declared that it would never be suitable for trans-atlantic travel, or Bells telephone declaring it would never replace the telegraph.

And yes getting to the ground without a parachute does have potential military applications.

Betonov · 08-01-16, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by August

And yes getting to the ground without a parachute does have potential military applications.

The final stop method could use work. Nets are unpractical.
Unless you already have a beachead established and you're landing reinforcements.

08-01-16, 12:24 PM	#1
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	By the way, this is the net used. Look at the size. The dimensions. Man, I can't wait until the military will use this to drop airborne brigades - but after all, I don't know what is possible or not -> only August does! Last edited by Nippelspanner; 08-01-16 at 12:36 PM.

08-01-16, 12:38 PM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	^ Yup, that's the problem. If you can get all the needed equipment in there in preparation for the paras, then you could just as well drive the paras there in the first place.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	They wont drop troops in nets. Thats stupid. But they will use the technology the guy used to slow his descent so he survived the sudden deceleration in hitting the net, to enable paratroopers to deploy chutes a lot later making them clay pigeons for a lot shorter time. Not to mention the tech and know how of hitting that net from that altitude will enable more accurate drops. God, you're all fixated on that net like me on redheads.