I start to HATE living in Germany

Originally Posted by Schroeder

I just did a little bit of research regarding the picture to figure out whether it's fake or not and it seems that that picture is already a couple of years old.

Here is a (German) article about it from 2014: http://www.mimikama.at/allgemein/fah...alsozialismus/

It also seems to be the only picture that ever comes up regarding that topic so it might be fake.

Let's hope so.

[Oberon]

Eh, in this day and age such things are easily manufactured, sadly because of the fact that such stupid incidents do occur with varying frequency. Thus, since such attention is drawn to these incidents and also to the possible fakes then a misleading perception of their frequency is given by the media. Still, such things can and do happen, and how often they do is often in the eye of the beholder.

In short, take all things with a truck of salt, especially if it's on the internet or in a newspaper.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Oberon

In short, take all things with a truck of salt,

Lorry of salt. You are a Brit.

[mapuc]

It's about flags

So here are two stories from my life.
The first is from the days in the Swedish Navy-I got two main job Postman-getting and deliver post to and from the ship.
My second job was as a Flagman-My job was to Hoist and haul the flag in the morning and in the evening. When I was assigned to this job I got a book to read about rules to obey regarding the flag etc.

Remember -If the ship is sinking by accident or by enemy fire-the flag has to bee hauled before the last man has left the ship

Many many years later I was in my neighbor town to make some business. On my way back I saw a young lad hauling some Swedish flags after he had taken them down and removed the ropes-He threw them into the ground(dirt) I walked over to him and said to him in a nice manner

Me: Are you aware of what you are doing is against the law
His reply:-What ??
Me-You are throwing the flags into the ground and thats illegal by the law
His reply: Who gives a( he saud a word which is not allowed here)
Me: The police if the come by and are in a bad mood, the could arrest you for having shown disrespect for the flag. If they are in a good mood they will say to you-Don't throw the flag on the ground.

I Knew by the time in the Navy that showing disrespect for the flang could give was it 5 or 10 years in prison. I my self wouldn't though, throw a flag into the ground
I respect the flag as I respect every countries flag.


I don't know if those law still exist.

[Tchocky]

Eh, it's a silly sticker and like Schroeder said there's a decent chance it's fake.

Nothing to get that worked up about.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Needing to share time and space with these bigot zealots, becomes more repugnant with every year passing. In Germany, this phenomenon is a damn plague.

You'll never guess who you're starting to remind me of.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

You'll never guess who you're starting to remind me of.

Is it Gandhi?

[Betonov]

Problem is that we give these crackpots power by recognising them and not ignoring them.
You got 10 ''social justice warriors'' in a population of a couple of million pulling some dumb stunt, the thing goes viral, some closet crackpots get brave enough to speak out, suddenly you get a movement, politicians smell votes and laws change.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Eh, it's a silly sticker and like Schroeder said there's a decent chance it's fake.

Nothing to get that worked up about.

You didn't read the original post completely, did you?
The problem is the summary and the frequency, not this one incident.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Problem is that we give these crackpots power by recognising them and not ignoring them.
You got 10 ''social justice warriors'' in a population of a couple of million pulling some dumb stunt, the thing goes viral, some closet crackpots get brave enough to speak out, suddenly you get a movement, politicians smell votes and laws change.

Everyone has the ability to have their fifteen minutes of fame these days thanks to the interwebs.

[Skybird]

Old or new event, fake or true - in the end it does not matter in that it is nevertheless illustrating for many comparably stupid symptoms and events, and the general Zeitgeist, here in Germany. There is a lot of self-denial amongst Germans, and flags have been ripped off cars at past football events for sure, by lefties, anarchists and/or anti-fascist "protest" groups.

The stickers with stupid comments that get bashed onto house doors and car windscreens not even mentioned. Things over here are such that even if the picture is a fake - you could take it as an illustration of today's reality here.

[Schroeder]

^I'm not so certain after all we've finally gotten to a point where we are putting flags on our cars during football tournaments which is something I don't remember from 20 years ago so maybe we're actually getting a bit of <gasp> national pride back.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

^I'm not so certain after all we've finally gotten to a point where we are putting flags on our cars during football tournaments which is something I don't remember from 20 years ago so maybe we're actually getting a bit of <gasp> national pride back.

Means little more than just carnival. Before it and right after it we will once again lament how nationalistic we are, and that the EU is the way to go and that historically grown feelings of identity are nationalism and thus evil, and we will tell each other how important it is to not be nationalistic and to welcome the foreigner and to not dominate Europe and to not lecture guests about German, and bla and bla and blablabla.

Hypocrisy.

Read that gloss I linked Nippelspanner to. There is quite some truth in it.

Spring last year the 14 or 15 year old daughter of friends of mine received a warning from the school director for attending some organised school sports event with German, Dutch and Belgian school kids (sports tournament or something like that) with a tiny German paper flag, and she had hand-written on the yellow bar at the bottom of the flag: "... und stolz darauf!" (means: "German - and proud of it!" ).

Verboten. Gemans are expected to not be proud, but shedding ashes on their head, admitting their badness and that everything in the world is their fault, their responsibility.

I don'T care whether AfD and Pegida can be excused, becasue I do not care for both. But their raise certainly can be explained. Dirty old man Thilo Sarrazin just added some reflections on that in an essay in the FAZ yesterday: (IN GERMAN) - http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaf...ue#pageIndex_2

[Oberon]

[HunterICX]

You Brits teaching them how to cross the channel properly?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

You Brits teaching them how to cross the channel properly?

LOL