I start to HATE living in Germany

[Schroeder]

^I'm not so certain after all we've finally gotten to a point where we are putting flags on our cars during football tournaments which is something I don't remember from 20 years ago so maybe we're actually getting a bit of <gasp> national pride back.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

^I'm not so certain after all we've finally gotten to a point where we are putting flags on our cars during football tournaments which is something I don't remember from 20 years ago so maybe we're actually getting a bit of <gasp> national pride back.

Means little more than just carnival. Before it and right after it we will once again lament how nationalistic we are, and that the EU is the way to go and that historically grown feelings of identity are nationalism and thus evil, and we will tell each other how important it is to not be nationalistic and to welcome the foreigner and to not dominate Europe and to not lecture guests about German, and bla and bla and blablabla.

Hypocrisy.

Read that gloss I linked Nippelspanner to. There is quite some truth in it.

Spring last year the 14 or 15 year old daughter of friends of mine received a warning from the school director for attending some organised school sports event with German, Dutch and Belgian school kids (sports tournament or something like that) with a tiny German paper flag, and she had hand-written on the yellow bar at the bottom of the flag: "... und stolz darauf!" (means: "German - and proud of it!" ).

Verboten. Gemans are expected to not be proud, but shedding ashes on their head, admitting their badness and that everything in the world is their fault, their responsibility.

I don'T care whether AfD and Pegida can be excused, becasue I do not care for both. But their raise certainly can be explained. Dirty old man Thilo Sarrazin just added some reflections on that in an essay in the FAZ yesterday: (IN GERMAN) - http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaf...ue#pageIndex_2