Swearing

[u crank]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Growing up, my mother always told us that, "the use of profanity is the mark of a small intellect".

While the use of profanity has it's time, place, and purpose it's very hard to have a meaningful conversation, be it spoken or written, when the other person sprinkles their ideas with copious amounts of profanity. Overuse of profanity tends to have the opposite effect from what's intended.

Just my 2 cents.

Wise words. I'll admit that when the occasion arises I can keep up with the best of them but I think profanity is over rated. I have yet to see anyone win an argument by out swearing the other guy. Writing swearwords is something I have never done. Can't do it.

As to SubSim's policy on swearing I agree with it. Just reading some You Tube comments tells me that this is the way to go.

And with the Canadian dollar the way it is that is my 1 cent worth.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Yeah, it's too common.

You want the moderators, all two of them, to manage other people's opinions and freedom of expression? I'm not sure what the solution would be to fit your wishes. It would take all of 3 seconds for the member who had his opinion censored to be accusing the moderator of bias. Let's just ban topics on politics and religion.

I will give you an answer, as best I can, as to the priority of moderation: We can discuss topics we feel strongly about, trying to make our point without attacking the person we are engaging. Attack the member's argument, not the member. That's always been my goal. Allow as much freedom to express opinions as possible and still maintain as much civility as we can.

But please, don't ask me or the moderators to clamp down on every expression you do not like. This is not a college safe space. There are a lot of members here, in addition to you, and you have to know that is too much work, and impossible at any rate, to make everyone happy.

Yep, works for me and I'll be as simplistic as I can if I may....

I draw the line when name calling occurs or insults start getting exchanged but still try to allow a little bit of give and take.

'Damned if you do' and 'Damned if you don't' often springs to mind.

[AVGWarhawk]

IMO the completely written out word or &%&$*%* is not necessary and should not be part of the forum. I frequent many forums for classic cars. These forums do not resort to using uncompromising language or %&$%*&$. Swearing, although makes some feel good when angered, is not part of the good conversation, debate or needed to make a point.

I can say without a doubt that Subsim is a very docile forum compared to others I have been to.

[Aktungbby]

Actually: (it slipped my mind); one of my occasional gigs is a local card club/casino where I am the constituted authority often on he night shift in all weather, usually in the parking lot. Even if you lose a tough hand, any profanity at the gaming table is expressly prohibited and you will be escorted-by me, by any means necessary- from the premises post-haste to your vehicle. The house offers 'bad beat' jackpot coverage ' so heartbreak losses are remedied at the floor managers' discretion and profanity is thus inexcusable-per the sign on the wall (FAQ if ever). My entry into the gaming area, when summoned, is regarded as a bad sign; fortunately, I've only ever had two incidents and they left w/o facing 'disturbing the peace' charges. As with rugby, poker is a sociable-skill game played by gentlemen...and ladies...Always. Similarly, is Neal's polite forum-the FAQ is clearly posted- end of discussion.

[Eichhörnchen]

"Get a wiggle on, Clive: I'd like to get home for my tea sometime tonight..."

"Start... START, why you wretched filthy thing, you!"

[HunterICX]

I don't know why there is to be an debate about this.
The rules clearly state that the use of vulgar, offensive and the use of foul language is a no-go.

Compromising with the use of alpha-numeric keys cusswords or ***** is pointless as there's already a forum language filter that does it in case someone couldn't resist the use of bad language.

If something you read on here makes you mad and the urge boils up to start swearing that's the point you should hit the log out button instead of replying with foul language as it only will result in that you give the moderators and admin a reason to undertake action.

[Wolferz]

By that definition, no word can be considered bad. It's the context in which they are used that make them bad.
Still, the use of salty language accomplishes one thing and one thing only,
It reveals the author's clear lack of vocabulary and makes the entire post subject to suspicion of idiocy and a quick invite to exit the premises.
We're all fairly intelligent folk here and it's better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. This becomes all too apparent when we choose to litter our posts with the excrement of our minds.

Keep it clean and we won't have all the flies buzzing around. Steve broke his fly swatter.

[August]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

By that definition, no word can be considered bad. It's the context in which they are used that make them bad.

Oh I can think of a few words and phrases that would be considered bad regardless of context.

It reveals the author's clear lack of vocabulary

I've known people (mostly Sergeants) who can elevate swearing into an art form and the last thing anyone would do is accuse them of being idiots.

[Dowly]

This was quite interesting:
Fry's Planet Word - "Uses and Abuses"

[vienna]

I have always had an admiration for those who can artfully use language without having to resort to "blue" words. There was an old drinking buddy of mine who was not well educated in the sense of degrees and old college ties, but very well read and knowledgeable. Once someone once asked him why he seldom, if ever, used swear words. He replied there was more satisfaction in eviscerating someone with word craft than just merely using cuss words; he compared it to fighting with a gun as opposed to a knife: the gun is quick and brutal, but essentially too quick, whereas a knife allows one to sort of slice and dice, prolonging the agony of the target...



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[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by August

Oh I can think of a few words and phrases that would be considered bad regardless of context.



I've known people (mostly Sergeants) who can elevate swearing into an art form and the last thing anyone would do is accuse them of being idiots.

Tell me about it. I used to be one of them. And a lot of them I would call idiots.

[Oberon]

I tend to swear in French or German usually, although if it's reflexive then it'll probably be in English.

Originally Posted by Oberon

I tend to swear in French or German usually, although if it's reflexive then it'll probably be in English.

...was.
How dare you swearing in my language!? That's bollocks!

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Tell me about it. I used to be one of them. And a lot of them I would call idiots.

Been there, done that. But i admit i find the US drill sergeant's hats like in Platoon utterly ridiculous. I guess you will not laugh as a recruit, but it's like putting someone in a clown's costume and allow him to torture you

Originally Posted by Catfish

Been there, done that. But i admit i find the US drill sergeant's hats like in Platoon utterly ridiculous. I guess you will not laugh as a recruit, but it's like putting someone in a clown's costume and allow him to torture you

As a former DI in the German army, I agree.
Different doctrines, I guess...