Cuba rolls out red carpet for historic Obama trip despite embargo

[Platapus]

Man Bubblehead. I bet you feel pretty embarrassed at this.

You should have just stuck with the basics and made you post simple

"I dislike Obama". It would have made you look a little less foolish.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Man Bubblehead. I bet you feel pretty embarrassed at this.

You should have just stuck with the basics and made you post simple

"I dislike Obama". It would have made you look a little less foolish.

Easy on the direct personal attacks, just explain how his post is irrelevant or erroneous.

[Gerald]

Update link.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0WO0EA

Note: Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:40am EDT

[Bubblehead1980]

LOL some of my enemies on here are so predictable. I am well aware others have visited communist countries during the Cold War etc. However, there is absolutely no reason for this visit to Cuba as Cold War is over . Once Castros die off, perhaps then. A Presidential visit legitimizes these horrible people and their sick ideology. A picture in front of Che? Really? Obama looked quite comfortable among his fellow travelers.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Man Bubblehead. I bet you feel pretty embarrassed at this.

You should have just stuck with the basics and made you post simple

"I dislike Obama". It would have made you look a little less foolish.

See my response above there pal.Definitely don't feel foolish, it's an entirely different situation than when others visited with Stalin, Mao etc.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

it's an entirely different situation than when others visited with Stalin, Mao etc.

Yeah, those two killed millions, Castro family thousands.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Yeah, those two killed millions, Castro family thousands.

The US used Cuba as a drug transfer site, exploted its citzens back to slavery times, and until Castro it has been the whorehouse of the Navy. The real Rum and Coca-Cola:
Pretty understandable they don't like Castro and want it back
As for Guantanamo http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...ep-deprivation look away, nothing else to see here than you already know from Abu Ghraib https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Gh...prisoner_abuse

[Oberon]

Yeah, but it's different when Obama does it, it's more ebil!

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I am well aware others have visited communist countries during the Cold War etc. However, there is absolutely no reason for this visit to Cuba as Cold War is over .

Oh boy, look at all this stuff going on that's completely different to the Cold War.








Yep, the Cold War is history. There's been absolutely no tensions between America, her allies, and Communist countries.

[Mr Quatro]

Can we safely assume that with this visit to Cuba by the sitting President of the United States that Castro had nothing to do with the chain of command to assassinate President John F. Kennedy back in November 1963?

I assume President Obama has at his disposal all of the top secret information to any smoking gun that the public does not have.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Can we safely assume that with this visit to Cuba by the sitting President of the United States that Castro had nothing to do with the chain of command to assassinate President John F. Kennedy back in November 1963?

I assume President Obama has at his disposal all of the top secret information to any smoking gun that the public does not have.

Mostly, I 've never felt it was Castro for most part, but our government.Kennedy was taking on the establishment of his day.Fired Dulles, opposed powerful Generals such as Lemay, was not for escalating Vietnam War and not friendly to the banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Yeah, those two killed millions, Castro family thousands.

Made strategic sense for Nixon to visit Red China when he did, since Moscow and Mao were not on best terms then.Nixon exploited that and while I regret it has lead to China becoming a world power when it should have been left to rot, Nixon was doing what made sense at time.

Much as I despise FDR, his wartime leadership was great and in the context of WW 2, had to cooperate to defeat Germany.

Cold War as it was is over. Cuba has been left to rot and while I don't oppose trying to establish relations in some ways while Castros are on way out.A Presidential visit is uncalled for but Obama is happy with, being with his fellow travelers.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Mostly, I 've never felt it was Castro for most part, but our government.Kennedy was taking on the establishment of his day.Fired Dulles, opposed powerful Generals such as Lemay, was not for escalating Vietnam War and not friendly to the banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve.

Add to the above regarding Cuba: the loss of a revenue source for a lot of US Big Businesses (hotels, casinos, etc.), the loss of major revenue for organized crime (Mafia) from various criminal enterprises carried out in Cuba, the loss of the CIA's Latin American & Caribbean HQ and listening stations, the loss of off-shore money caches for some of the US wealthiest individuals...

The list of potential suspects or grouping of suspects is ever large; I somehow don't really think assassinating JFK was a very large priority, if at all, for Castro. The downside of any such action would have been so large and catastrophic to Cuba and its USSR handlers as to be a very sufficient deterrent. All Castro really had to do was to wait out the 1964 elections, see if JFK won or lost; if JFK won, then all he had to do was wait out his 2nd term and then deal with the next President; if JFK lost, then Castro would just have to deal with the new POTUS. So, basically, Castro really had to do nothing; actually doing anything proactively would have been counter-intuitive and counterproductive...

As with any of these sort of 'conspiracy' posits, they tend to fall apart when either logic is applied or the question of logistics is considered...


<O>

[August]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Mostly, I 've never felt it was Castro for most part, but our government.Kennedy was taking on the establishment of his day.Fired Dulles, opposed powerful Generals such as Lemay, was not for escalating Vietnam War and not friendly to the banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve.

"For the most part"? Either he did or he didn't.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by vienna

The list of potential suspects or grouping of suspects is ever large; I somehow don't really think assassinating JFK was a very large priority, if at all, for Castro. The downside of any such action would have been so large and catastrophic to Cuba and its USSR handlers as to be a very sufficient deterrent. All Castro really had to do was to wait out the 1964 elections, see if JFK won or lost; if JFK won, then all he had to do was wait out his 2nd term and then deal with the next President; if JFK lost, then Castro would just have to deal with the new POTUS. So, basically, Castro really had to do nothing; actually doing anything proactively would have been counter-intuitive and counterproductive...

As with any of these sort of 'conspiracy' posits, they tend to fall apart when either logic is applied or the question of logistics is considered...


<O>

I'm glad that the Cuban/Russian connection was never firmly established with JFK and the US Navy standing strong against Russian missiles being supplied to Cuba before November 1963