North Korea sentences U.S. student to hard labor;Washington condemns punishment

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Just like those idiots who were hiking and got lost in Iran.

People need to understand how their actions can adversely affect their country.

It is not just about them.

Unfortunately in the society we've created nearly all their experiences from cradle to that point says it really is about them. Shielded from danger, from failure, from every adversity or disadvantage, the precious little snowflakes aren't given enough reason to know better until they become "adults" and find out that doesn't work in the real world.

[GoldenRivet]

I call them "The Blue Ribbon Generation" - no matter their efforts they always get the blue ribbon

I remember when i was 8 or 9 years old we had a field day track meet... you raced. you got first, second, third, fourth and fifth place ribbons. after fifth you got sweaty or winded... but thats it.

now they all are winners and are all special just for showing up and whining about the heat

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

we had a field day track meet... you raced. you got first, second, third, fourth and fifth place ribbons. after fifth you got sweaty or winded... but thats it.

now they all are winners and are all special just for showing up and whining about the heat

REALLY NICE play on words!

Heat:a. Sports & Games One round of several in a competition, such as a race. b. A preliminary contest held to determine finalists.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by August

Unfortunately in the society we've created nearly all their experiences from cradle to that point says it really is about them. Shielded from danger, from failure, from every adversity or disadvantage, the precious little snowflakes aren't given enough reason to know better until they become "adults" and find out that doesn't work in the real world.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I call them "The Blue Ribbon Generation" - no matter their efforts they always get the blue ribbon

I remember when i was 8 or 9 years old we had a field day track meet... you raced. you got first, second, third, fourth and fifth place ribbons. after fifth you got sweaty or winded... but thats it.

now they all are winners and are all special just for showing up and whining about the heat

I agree, (honestly anyone who raises their child like that should be locked up) but I'm not sure how it applies here.

I mean, I don't really see anything special snowflake about him. Special snowflakes just whine about minor things that don't hurt them. To use a few examples I've had to experience, "I don't watch Star Wars, stop talking about it", "stop being gay, that's weird" (that particular gem came from a guy who wouldn't stop whining about everything, especially his parents, so in his case I don't blame them at all) "if you believe in God, we can't be friends anymore," that sort of minor stuff. Gets on my nerves.

Yeah, the guy's crying, but if you were told that you'd been sentenced to 15 years in a jail where the guards are allowed to rape you, just for committing a minor crime (actually, I wouldn't be surprised if he's innocent and the NK authorities framed him because he's American), wouldn't you be just a bit under the weather?

As for visiting North Korea, pretty stupid thing to do, but I'm reserving judgement until I know why he visited. If he wanted to see just how bad things really were, or if the Museum of the Construction of the Museum of the Construction of the Museum of Culture actually exists, that's understandable (but a pretty stupid way to go about it). If he visited because he thought North Korea sounded like a great place, then I think he needs another education

And a slap or ten.

Yes, North Korea has a museum about the building of another museum, which was itself about the construction of a third museum. In unrelated news, people have very little to eat in North Korea. I wonder why?

[darkone999]

You do not go drop bombs in the outhouse on a hot summer day no matter how bad u have to go when it is full of hornet nests..Learned that lesson in 1969 at my great grandmas house when I was four years old and I was warned ahead of time..Better to go in the woods or the bucket..That was a very simple but real life lesson..

[Cybermat47]

Ouch, how bad were the stings?

[U505995]

Originally Posted by Bera

Unfortunately, no. He will probably die doing soviet-style hard labour, like mining or cutting logs.

Kudos to Bill Clinton. He went to North Corea and came back with those two american girls that were convicted some years ago. I think he deserved a prize or a medal for this.

Look at his face, then look at his belly. Baking enough cake to keep this guy fed for 15 years is hard labour if I have ever seen it.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by August

Unfortunately in the society we've created nearly all their experiences from cradle to that point says it really is about them. Shielded from danger, from failure, from every adversity or disadvantage, the precious little snowflakes aren't given enough reason to know better until they become "adults" and find out that doesn't work in the real world.

I certainly don't want our society to become a collective, but a little collectivism is a good thing. I am both an individual and part of my society. Each one of those has privileges and responsibilities.

Many people like to focus on the privileges, but the responsibilities are also important. Like many things in life, there is a compromise between "I" and "we" in life.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I call them "The Blue Ribbon Generation" - no matter their efforts they always get the blue ribbon

I remember when i was 8 or 9 years old we had a field day track meet... you raced. you got first, second, third, fourth and fifth place ribbons. after fifth you got sweaty or winded... but thats it.

now they all are winners and are all special just for showing up and whining about the heat

Yeah, you are right. I remember when The Frau's kid moved out (the first time) she had a closet full of these huge bowling trophies. They were massive in size and quantity. She bowled on the team for less than two years. And you know what, she did not really care about the trophies. Into the recycling they went.

I look at my library and I have one trophy. Just one, a small wooden one. But it was when I came in second place at the LA Scholastic Chess Open about a hundred years ago. But I treasure that trophy.

1. I truly earned it.
2. In my generation (aka old guy) we did not get trophies so it was truly something special.

[darkone999]

Platapus said
"I certainly don't want our society to become a collective, but a little collectivism is a good thing. I am both an individual and part of my society. Each one of those has privileges and responsibilities"

Tim says
Just as our founders intended..People forget we all our individuals with the same rights to protect our person from the oppression of others but we also have a responsibility to the common good so we may protect those rights and privileges for the future generations to enjoy. It is this almost perfect balance between the common good and Individualism that separates our great Constitution from all others in history.It is our responsibility to maintain this balance the best we can.

peace

Originally Posted by August

Unfortunately in the society we've created nearly all their experiences from cradle to that point says it really is about them. Shielded from danger, from failure, from every adversity or disadvantage, the precious little snowflakes aren't given enough reason to know better until they become "adults" and find out that doesn't work in the real world.