Its ok to wear Military Medals even if you didn't earn them.

Stealhead · 01-12-16, 08:34 PM

According to the UCMJ an active duty military member can not wear an award they did not actually receive. Nor can they wear rank that they in fact do no have.

Most places like restaurants don't verify that the person making the claim really is a veteran. Like Golden Corral they the free meal for a vet(not like I would ever eat there even for free) they dont verify anything.

Now car dealer will give discounts and in some states wont charge sales tax to an active duty member that person must show military ID and provide a letter from their commander office as confirmation.

I have mixed opinions about the people who generally imitate a military member (excluding Golden Rivets list) some of the people who do it are not all there in the mind towards this kind of person I hold no ill feelings. Now a mentally sound person who is a phony that ticks me off as dose a vet who makes false claims.

Cybermat47 · 01-12-16, 09:11 PM

You should only wear a medal you didn't earn in a real military situation if you're wearing a relative's medals - and when you do that, you wear them on an alternate side, to nake it clear that a relative earnt them, not you.

GoldenRivet · 01-12-16, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

You should only wear a medal you didn't earn in a real military situation if you're wearing a relative's medals - and when you do that, you wear them on an alternate side, to nake it clear that a relative earnt them, not you.

never heard of that

Rockstar · 01-12-16, 10:37 PM

The big thing on wearing uniform item was that they can be worn by anyone provided there is no intent deceive.

I retired from Hooligans Navy 10 years ago and just purchased from AAFEE a U.S. Air Force uniform item Gortex digital tiger stripe jacket cheap. I wear it everywhere when it rains.

Heck, I even have a Bundeswehr size GrNr15 Flektarn Parka and liner complete with sewn on German flag. Those are about 17.00 dollars a piece from keepshooting.com. It keeps me cozy in the cold weather when hunting Bambi.

Uniform items are fine to wear, especially when you think how Uncle Sam and Auntie Merkle practically gives them away to surplus stores to sell to civilians.

August · 01-12-16, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

The big thing on wearing uniform item was that they can be worn by anyone provided there is no intent deceive.

I retired from Hooligans Navy 10 years ago and just purchased from AAFEE a U.S. Air Force uniform item Gortex digital tiger stripe jacket cheap. I wear it everywhere when it rains.

Heck, I even have a Bundeswehr size GrNr15 Flektarn Parka and liner complete with sewn on German flag. Those are about 17.00 dollars a piece from keepshooting.com. It keeps me cozy in the cold weather when hunting Bambi.

Uniform items are fine to wear, especially when you think how Uncle Sam and Auntie Merkle practically gives them away to surplus stores to sell to civilians.

Exactly medals and insignia are different though.

Rockstar · 01-12-16, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Exactly medals and insignia are different though.

I dont think so, you can buy anything you want including medals and wear them. They are to some fashionable, some are worn in remembrence of others. Such as child wearing a medal of a family member who earned it. I believe its a matter of freedom of speech here in the U.S.

The issue is and always has been wether the wearer of said item or items were trying to deceive.

Personally I dont have a problem with anyone wearing uniform items and or medals. Unless they're posers then I say kick their arse.

Eichhörnchen · 01-13-16, 02:24 AM

When I was an army cadet, we were strictly forbidden to wear any part of our uniform or kit unless we were 'on duty'... so no wearing it to weddings or other unofficial functions to impress the birds.

Also, I had a mate who thought a WW2 Denison smock would look good over his denims (fatigues)... that was until an old guy stopped him one night and tore into him, mainly because he'd left the Para's wings on the shoulders.

August · 01-13-16, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

I dont think so, you can buy anything you want including medals and wear them. They are to some fashionable, some are worn in remembrence of others. Such as child wearing a medal of a family member who earned it. I believe its a matter of freedom of speech here in the U.S.

The issue is and always has been wether the wearer of said item or items were trying to deceive.

Personally I dont have a problem with anyone wearing uniform items and or medals. Unless they're posers then I say kick their arse.

I know what the law is, i'm just giving my opinion on it.

Cybermat47 · 01-12-16, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

never heard of that

We can do it in the Australian Air Force Cadets, I'm not sure if the US has similar regulations.

Stealhead · 01-13-16, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

We can do it in the Australian Air Force Cadets, I'm not sure if the US has similar regulations.

You may not do this in any US military based junior training program. In fact cadet awards and ribbions are unique.

You have seen this regulation in writing? I'm surprised it would be allowed.

Cybermat47 · 01-13-16, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

You may not do this in any US military based junior training program. In fact cadet awards and ribbions are unique.

You have seen this regulation in writing? I'm surprised it would be allowed.

Well, it's only at ANZAC day parades and the like - not any other occasions. It's done to represent any veterans in your family that can't attend or have passed away. I should have been clearer about that.

KrazyDimondRX · 01-12-16, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

You should only wear a medal you didn't earn in a real military situation if you're wearing a relative's medals - and when you do that, you wear them on an alternate side, to nake it clear that a relative earnt them, not you.

This 100%. This is the norm in my country. To show respect for our veterans specifically our relatives that has served it is totally acceptable to wear their medals on the alternate side to the military. However, don't get caught wearing "Ebay medals" on either side

KDRX

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The big thing on wearing uniform item was that they can be worn by anyone provided there is no intent deceive. I retired from Hooligans Navy 10 years ago and just purchased from AAFEE a U.S. Air Force uniform item Gortex digital tiger stripe jacket cheap. I wear it everywhere when it rains. Heck, I even have a Bundeswehr size GrNr15 Flektarn Parka and liner complete with sewn on German flag. Those are about 17.00 dollars a piece from keepshooting.com. It keeps me cozy in the cold weather when hunting Bambi. Uniform items are fine to wear, especially when you think how Uncle Sam and Auntie Merkle practically gives them away to surplus stores to sell to civilians. Last edited by Rockstar; 01-12-16 at 10:44 PM.

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Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,377 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	When I was an army cadet, we were strictly forbidden to wear any part of our uniform or kit unless we were 'on duty'... so no wearing it to weddings or other unofficial functions to impress the birds. Also, I had a mate who thought a WW2 Denison smock would look good over his denims (fatigues)... that was until an old guy stopped him one night and tore into him, mainly because he'd left the Para's wings on the shoulders. __________________

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	According to the UCMJ an active duty military member can not wear an award they did not actually receive. Nor can they wear rank that they in fact do no have. Most places like restaurants don't verify that the person making the claim really is a veteran. Like Golden Corral they the free meal for a vet(not like I would ever eat there even for free) they dont verify anything. Now car dealer will give discounts and in some states wont charge sales tax to an active duty member that person must show military ID and provide a letter from their commander office as confirmation. I have mixed opinions about the people who generally imitate a military member (excluding Golden Rivets list) some of the people who do it are not all there in the mind towards this kind of person I hold no ill feelings. Now a mentally sound person who is a phony that ticks me off as dose a vet who makes false claims.