Who Started World War II?

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Tell me, would you consider the atrocites committed at Oradour-sur-Glane in June 44 to be a part of post-war propaganda?

Absolutely.
An investigation was also carried out on this point.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Absolutely.
An investigation was also carried out on this point.

Then you're obviously out of kilter with those primary authorities which are far more knowledgeable:

On 6 June 2004, at the commemorative ceremony of the Normandy invasion in Caen, German chancellor Gerhard Schröder pledged that Germany would not forget the Nazi atrocities and specifically mentioned Oradour-sur-Glane.

On 4 September 2013, German president Joachim Gauck and French president François Hollande visited the ghost village of Oradour-sur-Glane. A joint news conference broadcast by the two leaders followed their tour of the site. This was the first time a German president had come to the site of one of the biggest World War II massacres on French soil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradou...Glane_massacre

There are many sources out there should your conscience ever allow you to open your eyes and mind and enter the reality of the actual real world.

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

There are many sources out there should your conscience ever allow you to open your eyes and mind and enter the reality of the actual real world.

As I like to say : how the winners have treated Germany in 1918 was dismal and shameful. But that was even worse in 1945.

History is written by the winners, not by the losers. So the truth has to be established, and we have to work on historical facts and evidence. And sorry, the official historians HAVEN'T DONE THEIR JOB. Historians who are doing their job don't have the right to speak, and they are persecuted. Why ? Because it's always a lie that needs to be protected. The truth is sufficient unto itself.

About Oradour-sur-Glane, that's perfectly right that there was a human tragedy here. And no one disputes. But this is how events unfolded that was completely mystified by the French resistance. In particular, the death of women and children can't be attributed to the Germans.

But again, this is off-topic.

[mapuc]

This is a very interesting thread

[Fahnenbohn]

Before starting the subject, I would like to warn the forum's moderators.
There are laws in several countries that are condemning the public expression of some historical researches (Big Brother). So specify me right away what I don't have the right to say here (even if I give proper evidence).

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[Tchocky]

The forum has it's own rules.

Follow those.

Nevermind how many international policemen are hunting you down for speaking the truth.

[Joefour]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

The forum has it's own rules.

Follow those.

Nevermind how many international policemen are hunting you down for speaking the truth.

What you don't understand, sir, is that Fahnenbohn is living in France. I don't know the specifics of the french laws in question, but in several countries in Europe, France included, he could be jailed for even broaching a discussion of certain taboo subjects. What are the bastards afraid of?

Thank God I live in the United States where the 1st Amendment of the Constitution still reigns! (Well, sort of)

[mapuc]

In my countries Denmark and Sweden we have total free speech

If a person belief and try to convince other that Holocaust was a fake the person has the right to do so.


I guess I'm like the majority here at Subsim- been brainwashed by the winning side(the Allied) I can't wait for what I have missed.

Markus

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Joefour

What you don't understand, sir, is that Fahnenbohn is living in France.

I do know about the French laws. I think they're ridiculous but that's another conversation.

I'm not taking him very seriously because of the rather hilarious persecution complex going on throughout the thread, which is par for the course for the kind of these kind of people.

Those laws do a lot of damage because instead of standing up and being ridiculed for their ludicrous beliefs these sorts can pretend that Big Brother is stifling the truth.

As we can see here.

Thank God I live in the United States where the 1st Amendment of the Constitution still reigns! (Well, sort of)

It's the first one for a reason

[August]

Originally Posted by Joefour

What you don't understand, sir, is that Fahnenbohn is living in France. I don't know the specifics of the french laws in question, but in several countries in Europe, France included, he could be jailed for even broaching a discussion of certain taboo subjects. What are the bastards afraid of?

Well I question whether merely broaching a subject can actually get someone jailed but I guess it all depends on how it's broached right? However in regards to laws like say Germany's ban on the swastika and other nazi symbols I see them as flawed strategies to marginalize the still alive and increasingly powerful European fascist movement.

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Tell me, would you consider the atrocites committed at Oradour-sur-Glane in June 44 to be a part of post-war propaganda?

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Absolutely.
An investigation was also carried out on this point.

[Cybermat47]

^^^

That's probably the best response.

Also, Fahnenbohn, take note of were Nippelspanner lives.

[Oberon]

Speaking of geography, we do seem to get a higher percentage of WWII revisionists from France, don't we? I recall our other resident Occidental expert (TM) is from the land of Le Pen.

Smells very Vichy to me.

[Tchocky]

You, sir, have been waiting to use that one!

[ikalugin]

Atleast this isnt Rezun aka Suvorov (and revisionists who use his stuff to go further). I mean how could we blame good old NAZIs, who didn't just defend themselves against evill backstabing barbarians of the east, barbarians who attacked first, but also tried to bring superior western enlightment, prosperity and culture to those barbarians?