Gun Control thread (merged many) - Page 115

Mr Quatro · 01-06-16, 07:32 PM

The man that Markus quoted said;

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I was so proud of the President this morning. I can only hope that others will follow his example.

President Obama did close a loophole in the right to own guns that is for sure, but I can't be proud of him and it has nothing to do with his being black.

Doesn't closing this loophole of sellers conventions come close to gun registration?

Sure sounds like it due to after this law goes into effect every gun owner that purchases a gun from that time on will be known

even if all of his gun purchases before this law were made at a legal gun show.

Just a matter of time before you know what happens

I see a lot of money changing hands already based on what the GOP and the democratict front runners are saying.

Sailor Steve · 01-06-16, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

...and it has nothing to do with his being black.

So why mention it? No one else here has. Is this a problem?

01-06-16, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

So why mention it? No one else here has. Is this a problem?

Yep, this.

Tchocky · 01-07-16, 05:59 AM

The spectre of a government "coming to get your guns" is one of those recurring tropes in this debate that is fanciful garbage designed to increase campaign donations and/or firearm sales.

As for the similar apocalyptic predictions of mass registration, I don't see the issue.

I have to register my car, motorbike, even my laptop. It's not beyond the realms of logic that a gun should be registered.

Sailor Steve · 01-07-16, 09:22 AM

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It's not beyond the realms of logic that a gun should be registered.

Is it beyond the realms of logic that a knife should be registered? A baseball bat?

Cars are registered because they are a prime source of taxation. You have to be licensed to drive a car on public roads, but not if you only drive it on your own property.

Does your laptop have to be registered with the government, or just with the manufacturer?

Betonov · 01-07-16, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

I have to register my car, motorbike, even my laptop. It's not beyond the realms of logic that a gun should be registered.

Laptop ??

Buddahaid · 01-07-16, 09:39 AM

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Laptop ??

Really?

Betonov · 01-07-16, 09:45 AM

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Really?

I know what a laptop is

I don't get why he has to register a laptop

Cybermat47 · 01-07-16, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

I know what a laptop is

I don't get why he has to register a laptop

Well, it's because... because...

I don't get it.

Jimbuna · 01-07-16, 10:02 AM

Registration is usually required by some companies to activate your warranty.

MaDef · 01-07-16, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

The spectre of a government "coming to get your guns" is one of those recurring tropes in this debate that is fanciful garbage designed to increase campaign donations and/or firearm sales.

you aren't familiar with the New York Safe act, or the new California "Gun Violence Restraining Order Law". While the government isn't implementing these policies wholesale across the country, at the state level, their doing there Damnedest to confiscate guns.

Tchocky · 01-07-16, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Laptop ??

With the company for tech support etc. Yeah I probably should have kept the list at two

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you aren't familiar with the New York Safe act, or the new California "Gun Violence Restraining Order Law".

I am actually. I remember the NY law being passed. The only confiscation provisions are in case of failure to register, a disqualifying mental health diagnosis, or continued violations of the law.
California has had confiscation provisions struck down by appeals courts, and the only confiscation provision on the books is limited to 21 days and only to "high-risk" individuals.

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While the government isn't implementing these policies wholesale across the country, at the state level, their doing there Damnedest to confiscate guns.

No. No they are not. Only 4 states have seizure laws, and they are similar to the one in California I just described.

You're exaggerating.

Betonov · 01-07-16, 11:52 AM

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With the company for tech support etc. Yeah I probably should have kept the list at two
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Problem is I understood it as a compolsury registration like a car or motorcycle. State level.
Registration with the company for tech support and warranty is quite understandable.

Rockstar · 01-07-16, 02:49 PM

After reading the news at whitehouse.gov regarding the executive action taken by our president. I really think its nothing more other than to simply generate a bunch of political hay and bureaucracy.

There are 30,000 gun related deaths each year. Of those 61% are suicides so this just may prevent the suicidal from using a gun and jump off a building instead, but thats about it.

MaDef · 01-07-16, 04:17 PM

@Tchocky, I'm not going to argue semantics over this. But I will leave you with this thought. At the present time it's easier/quicker to buy a weapon on the black market than it is to buy one legally. so these "feel good" laws that get passed are, in the short term, a waste of time/money/effort, but in the long term, whittles away more of my constitutional rights.

01-07-16, 05:59 AM	#1714
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The spectre of a government "coming to get your guns" is one of those recurring tropes in this debate that is fanciful garbage designed to increase campaign donations and/or firearm sales. As for the similar apocalyptic predictions of mass registration, I don't see the issue. I have to register my car, motorbike, even my laptop. It's not beyond the realms of logic that a gun should be registered. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Registration is usually required by some companies to activate your warranty. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	After reading the news at whitehouse.gov regarding the executive action taken by our president. I really think its nothing more other than to simply generate a bunch of political hay and bureaucracy. There are 30,000 gun related deaths each year. Of those 61% are suicides so this just may prevent the suicidal from using a gun and jump off a building instead, but thats about it. Last edited by Rockstar; 01-07-16 at 02:56 PM.

01-07-16, 04:17 PM	#1725
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,194 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	@Tchocky, I'm not going to argue semantics over this. But I will leave you with this thought. At the present time it's easier/quicker to buy a weapon on the black market than it is to buy one legally. so these "feel good" laws that get passed are, in the short term, a waste of time/money/effort, but in the long term, whittles away more of my constitutional rights.