The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[Oberon]

Tu-160s and Tu-22Ms have been launching attacks against Daesh, Tu-160s launching 12 ALCMs from Russian territory.

[ikalugin]

Tu160s were launching new Kh101 cruise missiles, Tu95MS were launching older Kh555s, Tu22M3s were doing dumb bombing.

Tu160 and Kh101:


Tu95MS and Kh555:


Tu22M3 and dumb bombs:


Open hunt on the oil infrastructure:

[CaptainRamius]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Tu160s were launching new Kh101 cruise missiles, Tu95MS were launching older Kh555s, Tu22M3s were doing dumb bombing.

Tu160 and Kh101:


Tu95MS and Kh555:


Tu22M3 and dumb bombs:


Open hunt on the oil infrastructure:

Ooh, bombers! Russia is finally getting involved. About time

[CaptainRamius]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

The Russians are now having target practice with weapons that they have, but have yet to be used in any other war.

That was a chilling site to see a low flying missile over Syria.

Is this good or bad?

Good. It means Russia is finally involved in the War on Terror, and that ISIS should expect heavy air strikes

[mapuc]

After have read one of ikalugin earlier post where he wrote

"Our Navy grouping in the area (centered on the Slava class cruiser Moscow) was ordered to cooperate with French Navy as they would with an ally, to plan and prepare for joint operations."

Made me think, some kind of joined military operation against daesh, must have something to do with their two mega "failure"

Killing Russian flight passenger and the terror attack in Paris.

Some of my FB-friends are convinced we will very soon see France boots on the ground in Syria.

Markus

[Betonov]

Great, now my parents are panicking about this mess.
These are people that were trained for guerilla war by Yugoslavia since they were 16 and now they're panicking about some sand rats getting lucky in France

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

The Russians are now having target practice with weapons that they have, but have yet to be used in any other war.

That was a chilling site to see a low flying missile over Syria.

Is this good or bad?

I would say it depends upon which end of the missile you're looking at. Incoming, bad; Outgoing, good.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Great, now my parents are panicking about this mess.
These are people that were trained for guerilla war by Yugoslavia since they were 16 and now they're panicking about some sand rats getting lucky in France

As guerrilla fighters they're probably trained to know what it takes to pull off something like the attacks on Paris. They're likely very aware it took more than just a few uneducated lone wolf sand rats who met online the night before. Rather a larger network of people nobody has seen yet who can organize the training, plan for and supply the logistics for such a complex attack. Im not panicking but if in their educated opinion they have concerns. Well, Id be a bit concerned too.

[Betonov]

They know what it takes to ambush an armoured column, live of the land and blow up bridges. They knew at least.
A large drive-by with grenades is not guerilla, it's something street gangs know how to do in one afternoon. And kill more people a year even in Europe.

[Rockstar]

I don't know, multipule coordinated timed attacks, armed with high explosives, automatic weapons and hand grenades just doesn't strike me as a couple of OG lampin with a biscuit drinkin the milk of some wankster frogs yo.



FYI translation: "OG", old gang; "lampin", hanging out under street lights; "biscuit", gun; "drinking milk", plotting a hit; "wankster", wannbe gangster; "frog", french; "yo", yo.



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[Stealhead]

I would call ISIS fighting tactics as light infantry I would call the FSA and Kurds style of fighting the same. They are not an insurgency in the areas they control. I would agree that ISIS seeks to have an insurgency style of terror in areas that is dose not control.

In the US OG means original gangster or a gang member that has survived some time as a member of his gang. For example Snoop Dog said in a song "OG of the LBC". Meaning Original Gangster of the Long Beach Crips. You can also ask Ice T. I learned much about street gangs in the military because the military is a better option than jail for some folks.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I don't know, multipule coordinated timed attacks, armed with high explosives, automatic weapons and hand grenades just doesn't strike me as a couple of OG lampin with a biscuit drinkin the milk of some wankster frogs yo.


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OK, I laughed at that one.

Roughly 80% of every planning is exit strategy. Whether it be an ambush, bank robbery, prank ringing of the doorbell or assasination.
Terrorists have no exit strategy except getting killed.

That's why they're so hard to detect. There's no observing the guard routes, no purchase of more specialised equipment (smoke grenades, police radio receivers, fast and capable getaway vehicles), no detailed floorplans of targets for knowing back exits, no testing the police responses (it's always a few minutes wherever you are and then it's a firefight).
Europe is not some weapon barren wasteland, just go east and buying an AK is like buying a used car.

9/11, that one was planning and logistics.
This one was: here's a gun, kill as many as possible before you're martyred.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by mapuc

After have read one of ikalugin earlier post where he wrote
"Our Navy grouping in the area (centered on the Slava class cruiser Moscow) was ordered to cooperate with French Navy as they would with an ally, to plan and prepare for joint operations."
Made me think, some kind of joined military operation against daesh, must have something to do with their two mega "failure"
Killing Russian flight passenger and the terror attack in Paris.
Some of my FB-friends are convinced we will very soon see France boots on the ground in Syria.
Markus

The naval grouping was tasked with cooperating with the French carrier group. So far there were no valid indications that France would get boots on the ground.
On the other hand Chinese rhetoric was getting harder.

[Jimbuna]

The UK are to send HMS Defender to escort the French carrier and provide air defence.

[CaptainRamius]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The UK are to send HMS Defender to escort the French carrier and provide air defence.

Ooh, nice. Maybe it can use some Tomahawks to take out some extremists too.