The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, we've been collecting collateral for a while, I mean you can do your best to avoid civilian collateral but sometimes it will happen no matter what you do. Hellfire missiles and laser guided bombs have a blast radius which will not only kill the jihadi but anyone within a good few feet of him or her.
The Jihadis know that we try to avoid collateral so they will use civilians as shields, it's a classic trick, one of the oldest...heck, Saddam did it often enough.

That's why I put a lot of hope on the ARSS and the possibility of guided bullets and micro-missiles. If we can increase the lethality and accuracy of our shots while decreasing the lethal radius, then we can cut down on collateral and the negative side-effects that it has.
Of course, the down-side of stand-off warfare is that you need good intel, and I think that's where we've struggled a fair bit.

You know have been thinking a lot of sci-fi these days

Imagine this

A drone drop some mosquitoes(man made special metal a.s.o) they find their targets and "hit" the terrorist.

These mosquitoes have eyes(camera, so the operator can see where he/the mosquitoes is flying and where the terrorist is.

OK maybe its to much sci-fi

Markus

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by mapuc

You know have been thinking a lot of sci-fi these days

Imagine this

A drone drop some mosquitoes(man made special metal a.s.o) they find their targets and "hit" the terrorist.

These mosquitoes have eyes(camera, so the operator can see where he/the mosquitoes is flying and where the terrorist is.

OK maybe its to much sci-fi

Markus

Not too much, I'd say we'll have something like that within the century. Drones are getting smaller and smaller now. Recon drones in particular since they don't have any need to carry weaponry. Of course, the kicker is making the weaponry small enough to fit on the drone whilst still being lethal enough to kill the target but not lethal enough that it kills everyone around him.

And then, of course, there's the kicker that this could just as easily be used against us, by either terrorists or a tyrannical government (TM).

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Not too much, I'd say we'll have something like that within the century. Drones are getting smaller and smaller now. Recon drones in particular since they don't have any need to carry weaponry. Of course, the kicker is making the weaponry small enough to fit on the drone whilst still being lethal enough to kill the target but not lethal enough that it kills everyone around him.

And then, of course, there's the kicker that this could just as easily be used against us, by either terrorists or a tyrannical government (TM).

I forgot two things in my scenario

1. These mosquitoes have poison in their "fuselage"
2. Some kind of self destruction after successful mission or failed mission

Markus

[Oberon]

That'll work, a sort of piloted dart gun. In fact, I recall an episode of the old TV program 'Bugs' which had similar things. I doubt such a device would be too far off, in fact there might already be prototypes in the works.


Coming back to current events;

There have been no explosives found in Hannover after the evacuation of the stadium and a concert, and the cancelling of the Germany vs Netherlands match. It would seem that the ambulance rumour and the reports of a man being held at gunpoint were either false alarms or fabrications. German authorities do state though that a 'concrete threat' was made towards the area.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That'll work, a sort of piloted dart gun. In fact, I recall an episode of the old TV program 'Bugs' which had similar things. I doubt such a device would be too far off, in fact there might already be prototypes in the works.


Coming back to current events;

There have been no explosives found in Hannover after the evacuation of the stadium and a concert, and the cancelling of the Germany vs Netherlands match. It would seem that the ambulance rumour and the reports of a man being held at gunpoint were either false alarms or fabrications. German authorities do state though that a 'concrete threat' was made towards the area.

Could be interesting to see where this "story" started from.

Markus

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That'll work, a sort of piloted dart gun. In fact, I recall an episode of the old TV program 'Bugs' which had similar things. I doubt such a device would be too far off, in fact there might already be prototypes in the works.

I saw a program on the History Channel a couple of days ago and they talked about this company here in the US that's making a drone called the "Switchblade", that could possibly be used to deliver a small but powerful explosive charge to a target. http://www.avinc.com/uas/small_uas/switchblade/

[eddie]

Looks like Boko Haram doesn't like Daesh getting all the headlines. They have set off a bomb in Nigeria that killed at least 35-40 people and wounded another 80!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...bing/75960116/

[Oberon]

I believe, on the quiet, Boko Haram have actually killed more people than Daesh, but of course, as we've already established earlier in this thread (or possibly in the Paris one) when it's not in the West it's not in the headlines.
Sooner or later, we're going to have to take a good look at Boko Haram, they may be content to stick to their own continent for now, but it won't stay that way forever.

Still, in rather strange news, I read that Hezbollah and Hamas have condemned the attack in Paris and stated that they stand by France. At least they seem content to play the middle ground for now, see who is where when the dust settles.

But yes, this whole thing in the US, even if it's true that members of the attack on Paris (and the number of attackers is up to 9 now, from 8) did hide in the refugee stream, and I'd be surprised if it's not, to deny a whole set of people a new chance at life out of fear that one of them might explode...is pretty much what these guys who shot up Paris want the US to do. They can find other ways into the US, or just radicalise those who are already living there, but making Americans scared of Muslim refugees, that's something they don't have total control over, they can push events in the right direction by creating terror acts, but if people don't react to them, then their goal is disrupted. The goal to force all Muslim people to have to fight the west because there is no-one else that wants them other than their radicalised brethren.

It's all psychology, quite a clever plan really and the way the winds are blowing in Europe and the US at the moment, it's a plan that's working.

[ikalugin]

Yesterday we have conducted the first large scale airstrike in Syria, as per Putins (post airliner attack) directive. In that attack we have used:
- 5 Tu95SM bombers.
- 6 Tu160 bombers.
- 12 Tu22M3 bombers.
- 8 Su34 bombers.
- 4 Su27SM fighters.

Infographic:



The Tu95SMs and Tu160s launched 34 cruise missiles, Tu22M3s and Su34s conducted bomb strikes. This large scale airstrike was conducted from Russian soil. Some of the Su34 sorties were tasked with destruction of oil transportation assets, 410 oil tankers were destroyed.
Further such air strikes are expected. Our Navy grouping in the area (centered on the Slava class cruiser Moscow) was ordered to cooperate with French Navy as they would with an ally, to plan and prepare for joint operations.

We have also concentrated an orbital grouping to improve our intel gathering capabilities, with 10 IMINT and ELINT/SIGINT satelites in orbits centered on ME. We plan to keep expanding this grouping.


Video:

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Indeed, although there are definitely concerns about border security because of the taunts from the Paris mastermind that he was able to enter and exit the EU at will. I can't say I'm surprised, although our border security is getting better after the refugee crisis, it's still very difficult to make it definite between the EU and non-EU nations.

It was noticeable when I flew into the UK (Newcastle Airport) at the back end of September.

No HMRC staff on duty but double figure numbers of HM Immigration officers.

[CaptainRamius]

Originally Posted by eddie

Looks like Boko Haram doesn't like Daesh getting all the headlines. They have set off a bomb in Nigeria that killed at least 35-40 people and wounded another 80!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...bing/75960116/

Good god. ISIS and Boko Haram. Great. Just what we need now. This is nuts.

[Mike Abberton]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Still, in rather strange news, I read that Hezbollah and Hamas have condemned the attack in Paris and stated that they stand by France. At least they seem content to play the middle ground for now, see who is where when the dust settles.

Not all that strange, really. Hezbollah is aligned tightly with Shi'a and as much in conflict with the Sunni-aligned Daesh as the West. Hamas is technically a Sunni faction, but with strong ties with Shi'a-dominated Iran. Iran has also come out strongly against the Paris attack, despite it's ongoing political struggles with the West.

If the fallout of the Arab Spring and the rise of Daesh has brought one thing out clearly, it's that even fundamentalist Islam is hardly a united front. Sunnis and Shiites are probably more likely to attack each other as attack the West.

Mike

[eddie]

This is probably a big mistake to show the Russians a picture of the homemade bomb they put on the Russian airliner. Got a feeling there will be some extra Russian made weapons hitting Syria here shortly!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...omb/ar-BBn9a24

[Jimbuna]

And so they will reap what they have sown.

[Mr Quatro]

The Russians are now having target practice with weapons that they have, but have yet to be used in any other war.

That was a chilling site to see a low flying missile over Syria.

Is this good or bad?