Gun Control thread (merged many)

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That's a fair point, and well put. Thank you for pointing it out in a reasonable manner to me. What if the person who checked on the gun safes was not a LEO though, and had no powers to arrest or detain anyone but just report on the condition of your gun storage? Would that make it any better?

It just wouldn't work like that. You know how we always tend to overdo things. Somebody would get a hair across their butt and we'd have armed standoffs and SWAT raids all around the country. Remember people here guard their privacy rights as jealously as any other.

Fourth Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

What would be the probable cause that a gun owner is committing a crime that would justify these intrusive searches?

You could arm teachers, I guess, but then what is to stop one of them going postal?

So what's to stop them now? A sign on the wall saying it's a gun free zone? A zero tolerance policy? I seriously doubt that a teacher or other school employee who has gone postal is going to care at all about that stuff other than to be reassured they won't be hindered by somebody shooting back.

I have to go get some work done now but i'll respond to the rest of your post later. As you Brits say cheers!