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Old 09-05-15, 03:17 AM   #11
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Well I don't believe we ever promised to "deliver" them democracy and liberties but rather we provided the opportunity for them to give those things to themselves.
You're right that there was no direct promise but I think the impression was (deliberately) created.

Apart from this, history has given us a lesson in the last decade(s) (see Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya just as examples) that military interventions alone - even with attached nation building (with a lot of goodwill also from NGOs) do not work. You need complete control over a failed nation, like the U.S. has done it after WWII in part of Europe (and especially in my country). But there it was much easier, since there was a developed society having a common basis (religion, economics etc.) and a common foe.

You do find this in the problem zones today.

And I think this is the root of the migrant problem: There is simply no concept how to change this, since all know what the price would be (and I do not talking about the money but about the loss of lives and the possibility that whole regions are completely be destabilized). In the end all are waiting for a miracle to occur or hoping for the distant future to change things.

Maybe there are alternatives ?
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