Europe's migrant problem

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I am not an immigrant.True some ancestors were, long ago.Different time and world then, country needed people, now we are full, no room.

True, the entire world's full.

This one, at least.

Here's the solution:



The sooner we inhabit multiple planets, the better.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

True, the entire world's full.

This one, at least.

Here's the solution:

The sooner we inhabit multiple planets, the better.

I think any serious colonization of Mars is between 100 and 300 years off (barring disasters). I don't think it will happen until after there is significant mining and manufacturing on the Moon or asteroids. I also think some kind of fission or fusion based propulsion will need to be developed before people go there with enough equipment to stay.

But the problem with thinking of Mars (or anywhere else) as a fallback planet, besides the lack of oxygen, magnetosphere, air pressure, food and liquid water is that it overlooks the obvious. Wherever we go, we’ll take our territorial selves with us. How long before the Chinese Mars Colony's terraforming policy starts screwing with the Western Mars colony's terraforming plan and vice-versa? Either we’re capable of dealing with the challenges posed by our own foibles or we’re not. Perhaps the reason we haven’t met any alien civilizations is that those which survive long term aren’t the type to go zipping around the galaxy. Maybe they’ve stayed quietly at home, tending their own garden and living within their means.

[Catfish]

Wherever we go, we’ll take our territorial selves with us. How long before the Chinese Mars Colony's terraforming policy starts screwing with the Western Mars colony's terraforming plan and vice-versa? ...

Good point.
Maybe get rid of 'nations', and finally unite to defend the earth against asteroids, and 'conquer' space.
"But someone HAS to dominate the others", says the Chief ape, sorry, i mean strategic advisor.

Let IS have the moon, as it is now

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Good point.
Maybe get rid of 'nations', and finally unite to defend the earth against asteroids, and 'conquer' space.

Yeah, but you know how it is with us humans. You can have my tribal pride when you pry it from my cold, dead ego.

[Betonov]

Maybe we will be invaded by an advanced alien rase that sees potential in us that can't be fully realised a slong as we have our petty wars and will subjugate us wih benelovlant rule. And unicorns will eat rainbows.

[Rockstar]

The topic: European immigrant/refugee problem.

Responses to said topic: Looking back I see; Don't bother me, blame Bush, something to do with potatoes, talk of power vacuums, donations for a loud hailer, a few laughs and funny emoticons, mocking posts, don't trust politicians, guilt trips, photos of dead children, and suggetions what someone else should do to solve said problem.


thats really good.

[Onkel Neal]

Rockstar, I love your thread summaries. Need more of them.

I look at the picture of the little boy and my heart is filled with sadness and compassion. But that's not any different than when I see a picture of a junkie or an auto accident victim. The key is to find a solution that does not upend your society. These people need help. But are you going to allow as many as want to come in? Why not? How do you draw the line, say, "Yes, you can come in, no, you cannot" ? Let them all in, and millions will come. You better realize, they are fleeing a region where they make up the whole population, and they didn't seem to manage well there. Now they want in your country. Maybe it will work out, I hope so. How many of you are willing to give up 10, 15, 20% of your paycheck (or guvmint welfare) to provide for millions of immigrants? And compete for jobs with people who will gladly work for less than you. It's easy to be compassionate when you expect the rich fatcats to finance everything. I am not trying to be mean, just realistic.