Submarine found in Swedish waters

[Aktungbby]

nothing available yet from this end ....

[daft]

I'm not very well versed in ocean life, but how is it possible for a structure to remain as clean as the one shown in the images? It certainly looks like some sort of conning tower, but no growth can be seen at all. The close ups of the alleged "cyrillic letter" do show some growth (or possibly just silt).

And again, the sonar profile of the thing looks distinctly WW2-ish, but I don't know the angle it is taken at. Very interesting.

@Aktungbby

"This end" is what end? Germany?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by daft

I'm not very well versed in ocean life, but how is it possible for a structure to remain as clean as the one shown in the images? It certainly looks like some sort of conning tower, but no growth can be seen at all. The close ups of the alleged "cyrillic letter" do show some growth (or possibly just silt).

And again, the sonar profile of the thing looks distinctly WW2-ish, but I don't know the angle it is taken at. Very interesting.

@Aktungbby

"This end" is what end? Germany?

I reckon the amount of marine growth would be dependent on the amount of light penetrating the depths, water temperature, nutrient levels and currents at the site.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by daft

@Aktungbby

"This end" is what end? Germany?

R U 'daft' Man!

P R E S S R E L E A S E 2015-07-27
A Russian mini-submarine has been discovered at Swedish territorial waters not far from the Swedish coast. The submarine is about 20 meters long and three and a half meters wide. It is unclear how old the submarine is and how long it has been laying at the sea floor, but the Cyrillic letters on the hull indicates that it is Russian.
The discovery was made previous week by the Ocean X Team and Ixplorer.
– The submarine is completely intact, have no visible damage to the hull and the hatches are closed. Therefore do we fear that the crew have not been able to save them self when the sub went down, says Stefan Hogeborn, divers in Ocean X Team.
The submarine was found during an expedition where a camera equipped, unmanned mini-submarine of the model ROV, Remote Operated Vehicle, was sent down.
Swedish Armed Forces was informed earlier today.
Ocean X Team is now preparing for a new expedition, divers will be sent down to film and to investigate the submarine wreck more closely.

Even money says it's a Piranha titanium(The non-magnetic alloy would greatly reduce the effectiveness of enemymagnetic anomaly detectors or magnetic against this type of vessel.) hull; 9 crew Only two Piranha-class submarines were reportedly ever built in Russia. EDIT: no joy on Piranha.... The Swede: "Per Andersson, former member of submarine analysis group, believes himself to be sure it is a Catfish-submarine that sank in the Baltic in 1916.
I feel very confident that there is a Catfish. It is true with the details of the submarine, "he said.
28.2 meters depth 300 (max) meters.

[daft]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

It be funny if they found it while it was on assignment. All of a sudden it just gets up and leaves.

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

R U 'daft' Man!

I didn't just grab the user name out of thin air!

[daft]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I reckon the amount of marine growth would be dependent on the amount of light penetrating the depths, water temperature, nutrient levels and currents at the site.

An old Seehund 127 (possibly in Soviet service) and a Russian Som class sub has been named as possible suspects based on the shapes shown in the images, nothing else. Som collided with a Swedish steamer in 1916 and sank.

https://twitter.com/Twitt_Skipper/st...47959846731777

https://twitter.com/CorporalFrisk/st...51383166226432

Just speculation of course. Someone else mentions "Bars", "Lioness" and "Cheetah".

[mapuc]

If the sub is very old-which I doubt* I guess the sub and the dead bodies will be send back to Russia

If it is a modern sub- I guess there will be a little diplomatically crisis between Sweden and Russia.

About 6 month from now-life will go back to normal.

Markus

[Rosencrantz]

Well, at least it does look like a really old boat - definitely not a post-war model. Som I think is a good guess. Papers will sell good tomorrow. Too bad it wasn't something more recent design.


-RC-

[daft]

Former member of the Submarine Analysis Group says he is convinced it is Russian sub Catfish that sunk in 1916.

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/expe...et-ar-catfish/

He says that its position has been known by the Swedish Armed Forces for a while but that knowledge is not official.

If the Ocean X guys cleaned it up before going public... These are thesame guys that found the underwater "UFo" a while back. They know PR.

[Stealhead]

Sure looks like a pre WWII boat to me. Looks a bit like an old R-boat I know that the Imperial Russian Navy did buy boats from both Holland and Lake and I'm pretty sure they had something similar to the R-boat.

[dsawan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losos-class_submarine

[daft]

Swedish Armed Forces confirms it is the Catfish that sank in 1916:

http://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktu...venska-vatten/

[Sung]

100 years old and in very good condition

[CjStaal]

One of the reasons it could be so well preserved is that the oxygen content of the water might be very low.

[CCIP]

Yeah, the Baltic is usually quite good to wrecks. Same reason that the Swedes were also able to raise the Vasa after more than 300 years and still find it in very good condition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)