At this moment, 150 years ago...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Ignorant and foolish describes people who celebrate a man who launched a war that left 800,000 people dead, millions more wounded physically, emotionally for life.

We've had this conversation before, and you conveniently forget. It was the South that fired the opening shots.

Even more ignorant is many believe it was to end the stain of slavery when in fact it was about northern industrialists and money using government tyranny to further their interests.How the brave people of the south who stood up, refused to allow their rights to be violated , did their best to stop such actions.

You might want to reread the reasons why the southern states seceded in the first place. Not the reasons they've come up with since, but the reasons they themselves gave at the time.
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Ignorant and foolish are those who call Lincoln a great a man when he was nothing more than a tyrant who suspended habeas corpus jailed those who dared criticize him.Facts are stubborn things, it happened.

You've said that before. Opinion is nice, but you have yet to prove your case. Or even really try.

I've pointed out before that Lincoln was the product of the generation who wrote the Constitution. The Founders were forced to compromise over the question of slave importation and Southern States' representation. They believed that the country could not survive unless all 13 states were united, and Lincoln firmly believed the same. If you don't look at it within that context then your beliefs about him and his reasons are heavily biased.