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Old 03-03-15, 07:59 AM   #1
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I've found that I mostly get one shotted at long range by PzIV F2 and Stug III F's whilst driving my T34, the turret of a T34 is a showstopper as one shot through there and you can scoop out the crew with a spatula.

And as for taking damage well, eh....found myself too often being shotted somewhere which puts me dead stop in the middle of the last place I want to be. As for a T34 or T50 dealing more damage, ha....I found the T50 awfull unless you got up close and personal do any serious damage and with a T34 I wouldn't take my chances face to face against a Stug III F or PzIV F2 on long range.

Match making, having to face a tier up or tier down isn't that problematic imo...ofcourse it isn't fun to face a KV1, PzIV, Sherman whilst in a T26, Stuart or PzII but you still can do some damage and destroy tanks. Unlike in WoT when it comes to facing a tier up you become as useful as a Clay pigeon
Odd, my T-34 seems to take shells like a brick wall, just takes a licking and keeps on ticking, whereas the Panzer IV always cops a shell in one of the parts where the German designers in their infinite wisdom decided to put flat facing armour, likewise the StuG. Might just be my luck I guess. Yeah, the T-50 is rather fragile though, bloody fast though, fairly good for BT-7 style runs.

I just wish that they'd kept the icons off event for the level I was on, I was rather enjoying it a lot, it meant that you actually could be sneaky and catch the enemy off guard, rather than flashing up on their radar like a flight of B-17s. Ah well, hopefully it'll come round again.

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I can only hope that they come out with a "Cold War gone Hot," game mode where we finally get to throw down with the Soviets (sorry Fritz - no Nazi gear today! ) - higher tier Warsaw Pact vs. NATO kind of stuff. Wanna see Fulda Gap in all its gory glory!

That game would be awesome.
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Old 03-03-15, 08:28 AM   #2
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I find that with the Germans the Panzer IV F2 or the Panzer III J1 (and, I imagine, the long-barrel variant of the StuG III) can start penetrating the armour on the Shermans and T-34s pretty consistently, whereas beforehand you might as well have been hitting them with wet noodles. KV-1s are still a pain, but well, KV-1s. German armour protection is still (as it was historically) about as good as a piece of paper, though, so they still explode more often when the Allied tanks look at them funny.
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Old 03-03-15, 08:44 AM   #3
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I keep underestimating the J1. I get in a situation where I know the armor will save me, as it would against anything short of a Su-122, but then the little blighter blasts right through. In style at that, with the shell punching clean through the front plate and embedding itself in the engine at the rear... Generally ends in a nice fireball.

APCR rounds can be quite good, but certainly not at range. Their high penetration makes me think of them as a "sniper" round, but then it just doesn't have the energy to cause much damage after penetrating. Fired from a shorter distance it practically goes the full length of the tank, and that is what makes it powerful.

* I remember when starting out, I saw that after-death animation thingy; the shell came in through the front, bounced off the bottom plate and ended at the back of the turret. It pretty much hit anything functional inside on its way through. Scary.
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Old 03-03-15, 09:10 AM   #4
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I find that with the Germans the Panzer IV F2 or the Panzer III J1 (and, I imagine, the long-barrel variant of the StuG III) can start penetrating the armour on the Shermans and T-34s pretty consistently, whereas beforehand you might as well have been hitting them with wet noodles. KV-1s are still a pain, but well, KV-1s. German armour protection is still (as it was historically) about as good as a piece of paper, though, so they still explode more often when the Allied tanks look at them funny.
Could be that I've yet to get more than the primary shells on the IV F2, hopefully the armour penetrating stuff will work better. I have found though that generally though I get knocked out a lot easier than I knock others out. The StuG is fairly good though, but still, flat forward armour just seems to magnetically attract shells, which automatically murder everyone on contact.
That being said, when I penetrate an enemy tank, I see the enemy men get hit which if it had happened to me would either knock me out, or make me immobilised, and yet the struck tank will immediately start reversing.
That being said (again), there are a few one hit kill points, in particular for the HVSS Sherman, the rear of the turret (which is IIRC where the ammo is stored) will make it go up like a firework nearly every time.
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Old 03-03-15, 09:35 AM   #5
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It could be there's quite a few people playing on a lower tier than they could. Their crews would consequently be a lot more "experienced" - i.e. they prolly pumped quite a few points into their vitality stats. Not sure how crew health works, but I imagine it increases the threshold where they get knocked out along with their maximum health.
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Old 03-03-15, 09:52 AM   #6
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Could be that I've yet to get more than the primary shells on the IV F2, hopefully the armour penetrating stuff will work better. I have found though that generally though I get knocked out a lot easier than I knock others out. The StuG is fairly good though, but still, flat forward armour just seems to magnetically attract shells, which automatically murder everyone on contact.
That being said, when I penetrate an enemy tank, I see the enemy men get hit which if it had happened to me would either knock me out, or make me immobilised, and yet the struck tank will immediately start reversing.
That being said (again), there are a few one hit kill points, in particular for the HVSS Sherman, the rear of the turret (which is IIRC where the ammo is stored) will make it go up like a firework nearly every time.
I use the standard APC rounds with the F2. The HEAT rounds are only useful at very long range (if they even hit) or against unarmoured targets and the APCR is useful only if you aim it just right. It does seem like I get disabled much more easily than the enemy, which could be their crew vitality or just the German tanks being horribly protected. At the least the placement of the ammunition on the Panzer IV seems rather questionably thought out to me...
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You mean something like:
http://aw.my.com/us ?
Looks like WoT but with "newer," stuff. Not interested at this point.

I like the "creeping though the woods, looking for enemy tan..OH GOD THERE IS ONE RIGHT THERE," sort of thing I get from WT Simulator mode as well as the challenge you get from having to do IFF as you zoom past in your plane.

If my Soviet lend-lease Sherman is any indicator, then yes, Shermans are indeed quite durable. I'm going to get a 105 Sherman ASAP for maximum derpability.

And if you think Girls und Panzer is odd, check out Arpeggio of Blue Steel for extra-special strangeness.
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Old 03-03-15, 08:42 PM   #8
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Looks like WoT but with "newer," stuff. Not interested at this point.

I like the "creeping though the woods, looking for enemy tan..OH GOD THERE IS ONE RIGHT THERE," sort of thing I get from WT Simulator mode as well as the challenge you get from having to do IFF as you zoom past in your plane.

If my Soviet lend-lease Sherman is any indicator, then yes, Shermans are indeed quite durable. I'm going to get a 105 Sherman ASAP for maximum derpability.

And if you think Girls und Panzer is odd, check out Arpeggio of Blue Steel for extra-special strangeness.
It does make sense, to be fair, I mean sloped armour pwns flat armour after all. Just rather annoying to be the derp Panzer being eaten by Shermans...but, I suspect that I'm not playing this in the manner it should be, although the no-labels simulator mode is the best one for that because you can hide in the woods without a red label appearing above your head.

Oh, and Takao is best heavy cruiser.

EDIT: I've been reading some talk in the WT forums that the German 75 and 50 mm rounds have been, if not nerfed, then certainly altered in a manner which makes them a lot less reliable. This could explain some of the problems I've been having with them....

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Old 03-04-15, 04:24 AM   #9
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Played some WT tank battles today.

Turns out I'm a much better tanker than I am a pilot

Though I'm kinda upset that everyone on the server bullied me for playing a Girls-only game
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Old 03-04-15, 06:34 PM   #11
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The heated seats provided to the crews of Marder III Hs during those cold Russian days was greatly appreciated:

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Call it what you want, but War Thunder can be one pretty game.

Anyone else enjoying the current combined arms event where its basically a short range knife fight? I know I am!
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