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Old 02-28-15, 09:43 PM   #7
Nemo66
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uff..Steve...proof? Nope, not at this very moment, Sir

I definitely remember that i read about this, especially about the handiness of the Type VII in comparison to the allied destroyers, in several german historical naval books. I can't tell you at the moment what books exactly because i have tons of submarine books and it was quite some time ago. Also i just moved into a smaller flat and all of my books are still stored in 20 big boxes i have no real access to at the moment. I promise i let you know when i have finished my moving and have easy access to the books again. But this will take some time. Maybe you can find out elsewhere in the meantime?

And what do you mean with "tighter"? Does this mean as smaller circle? (Sorry, i am german)
In my understanding the turning circle gets smaller/tighter when a ship goes slower, and the turning circle is a bigger/wider one when it goes faster, because of the centrifugal forces. This way it is modelled in SH3 too. But you can't really notice that fact in open seas because you have no relation points. If you try this in narrow waters (small bay f.e.) you will see what i mean instantly. This seems perfectly logical to me, the centrifugal forces push the ship outwards, out of the curve, so a faster ship creates more centrifugal forces and therefore will need more space to turn. Also a shorter ship should do a smaller turn with less need for space than a longer one. As the type VII subs were about two thirds the length of a Destroyer i think this is an argument, too.
Anyway, i read about it in different books by different authors, some of them Ex-Kriegsmarine Kaleuns so i think i can be pretty sure about it. But proof..? Sorry, not at this very moment, sir

P.S.: Maybe it's just a misunderstanding. I am talking about how narrow/small a turning circle can be. And i think you relate to the speed/time a ship could finish a full circle. Can this be the case? For example the Richthofens Fokker Triplane in WW1 was kind of slow, but very handy, that means it could do a more narrow turn/curve. Just like the sub. The DC must go a longer way to finsih its circle than the sub does. Just imagine two circles, one being signifantly smaller. After the first waterbomb attack, the Dc has to do a bigger/wider circle than the sub, no matter if he is faster. That's exactly what i am referring to.

Last edited by Nemo66; 02-28-15 at 09:56 PM. Reason: another idea
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