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Old 02-27-15, 11:04 AM   #1
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Old 02-27-15, 01:57 PM   #2
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Do you expect anything but idiocy out of congress anymore?

I am starting to like that they take so much time off, they can't break anything worse (than it is) that way.
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Old 02-27-15, 06:41 PM   #3
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Well to be considered persons that witnessed the act/s must write up an award recommendation far as I know a member of congress dose not have that power.

There are numerous SEALs that actually did earn a MOH which I might add has nothing to do with kill ratios in fact there are MOH recipients that did not kill a single enemy solider during the action they where rewarded.

There is also a single case of a MOH SEAL later getting saved by another SEAL who revived an MOH for the rescue.

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Old 02-28-15, 12:32 PM   #4
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I am 100% certain, that if Chris Kyle were here, he would drop kick that dummy for suggesting such an absurd thing.



Kyle knew, as all current and former military know, The Medal of Honor, is NOT a popularity contest award.
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Old 02-28-15, 04:05 PM   #5
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I am 100% certain, that if Chris Kyle were here, he would drop kick that dummy for suggesting such an absurd thing.



Kyle knew, as all current and former military know, The Medal of Honor, is NOT a popularity contest award.
I'm not so sure. It's been proven that he lied repeatedly to promote himself.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp

He claimed that he punched Jesse Ventura in the face. In fact, Ventura never even met him, and Kyle's estate lost the slander suit that Ventura brought.

Kyle also claimed that he and another person sat at the top of the Superdome in New Orleans during Katrina, and sniped looters. Umm...no.

He also claimed that he killed 2 men who tried to carjack him in Texas. No evidence has ever been found for this.

Strange how none of this made it into the film.

Given this blatant dishonesty and lack of character, I think he'd jump at the chance to claim a medal he didn't earn.
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I'm not so sure. It's been proven that he lied repeatedly to promote himself.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/kyleclaims.asp

He claimed that he punched Jesse Ventura in the face. In fact, Ventura never even met him, and Kyle's estate lost the slander suit that Ventura brought.

Kyle also claimed that he and another person sat at the top of the Superdome in New Orleans during Katrina, and sniped looters. Umm...no.

He also claimed that he killed 2 men who tried to carjack him in Texas. No evidence has ever been found for this.

Strange how none of this made it into the film.

Given this blatant dishonesty and lack of character, I think he'd jump at the chance to claim a medal he didn't earn.
I've heard the Ventura suit verdict is under review for judicial misconduct. But still, the other 2 stories Kyle told are bogus.

Don Shipley does a great job busting fake SEALs. The absolute worst of them is definitely Bill Brockbrader.





Edit: Back on topic. The moron who wants Kyle to get the Medal of Honor is doubling down:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/c...e-by-veterans/
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Just another case of another flag-waving politician try to make brownie points and political hay off the reputation of another person. He probably thinks this effort will look good in his re-election campaign ads...

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Just another case of another flag-waving politician try to make brownie points and political hay off the reputation of another person. He probably thinks this effort will look good in his re-election campaign ads...

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I don't know if you ever watched Homeland, but that is exactly what the VP in the series did with the rescued POW (Damien Lewis plays an American better than most Americans) to try to win an election.
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As much as he did for his country, I do not see anything that would grant him the MOH.
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As much as he did for his country, I do not see anything that would grant him the MOH.
Yeah, this is just a legacy theft for votes. Abusing a tragic situation for political gain should fall under the Stolen Valor act.


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...valor-act.html

If this scumbucket wins an election he can make a lot of cash, piggybacking on a veteran. Stolen Valor, while not impersonating, he is still abusing military personnel for financial gain.
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I wouldn't go as far as Stolen Valor, just say 'No'.
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I don't know if you ever watched Homeland, but that is exactly what the VP in the series did with the rescued POW (Damien Lewis plays an American better than most Americans) to try to win an election.
Kind of brings to mind the whole 2004 Pat Tillman situation where the DoD and the White House mightily tried to turn his death into political and propaganda advantage for their own agendas. If Tillman had not be killed in the manner he was, the Homeland plot line would have been dismissed as "fiction" and anti-American. Truth is very much stranger than fiction and those politicians and other government officials who prey on other's tragedies are worse than any villains conjured up by the minds of writers...


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