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Old 02-28-15, 01:00 PM   #1
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As much as he did for his country, I do not see anything that would grant him the MOH.
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Old 02-28-15, 01:09 PM   #2
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As much as he did for his country, I do not see anything that would grant him the MOH.
Yeah, this is just a legacy theft for votes. Abusing a tragic situation for political gain should fall under the Stolen Valor act.


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...valor-act.html

If this scumbucket wins an election he can make a lot of cash, piggybacking on a veteran. Stolen Valor, while not impersonating, he is still abusing military personnel for financial gain.
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Old 02-28-15, 01:14 PM   #3
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I wouldn't go as far as Stolen Valor, just say 'No'.
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Old 02-28-15, 01:22 PM   #4
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I think everyone wants on to the Kyle bandwagon atm.

While I don't hate fox news, I think they are trying to milk his story for every moment possible.
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I wouldn't go as far as Stolen Valor, just say 'No'.
Yeah it is a stretch. It is still just as despicable IMHO.
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Old 02-28-15, 02:45 PM   #6
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Stolen Valor is a law that covers expressly a person making false claims of military service or embleishing their actual service history in order to recive a financial gain. The person also has to claim certain things for example that they where rewarded a combat medal(bronze star,silver star) when they did not in fact recive such awards.
I'm just posting this as a good number of people misunderstand what Stolen Valor actually dose.
Here is what the bill/law actually covers
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2013

So basically it means that the crazy dude that makes silly stories up while still morally wrong he is not breaking any law. That also means that the posers you find in public are not violating any law either until they do it to make financial gains. I recon they could be charged with impersonating an officer if they where claiming to be one. Of course they simply state that they are a military reenactor.

Now what Son Shipley dose I like he dose it right. I have seen other "stolen valor" videos some like the Ranger who calls out a man posing as a Ranger are OK as you can tell that the vet was genuinely angry. Others that I have seen to be honest I'm not sure if the video makers are vets or the type of vet they claim to be either.

https://m.youtube.com/user/Buds131 Shipley

mall guy

sure this guy is a slope these guys are not Army either how do I know? They question why he dose not have an airborne tab along with his Ranger tab. Obviously they do not know that the Airborne tab (school) is not a requirement to being a Ranger. So for them cause they are either not military or massive pouges.

Don't get me wrong I have no or problem with someone calling outva fake but at least do it professionally like Shipley dose have some military bearing.

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Yeah I know Stealhead. I was just searching for something, out of anger.

Mall guy was my favorite, just because of how angry the hero of that saga got at the end, to the point his wife had to calm him down.

It is gross to make a legacy off of someone elses service, and any politician who does so deserves something done to them. He will most likely get re elected, because in his commercials he will state that he stands up for the veterans, and loves our American heroes

*cue My country tis of thee playing while Chris Kyle pictures and the American flag waving*

Jerky McJagoff For congress, this message is approved by Chris Kyles corpse, and you hate America, and veterans if you DO NOT vote for ME!
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Yeah I know Stealhead. I was just searching for something, out of anger.

Mall guy was my favorite, just because of how angry the hero of that saga got at the end, to the point his wife had to calm him down.

It is gross to make a legacy off of someone elses service, and any politician who does so deserves something done to them. He will most likely get re elected, because in his commercials he will state that he stands up for the veterans, and loves our American heroes

*cue My country tis of thee playing while Chris Kyle pictures and the American flag waving*

Jerky McJagoff For congress, this message is approved by Chris Kyles corpse, and you hate America, and veterans if you DO NOT vote for ME!
It depends to me really some of the people that impersonate it kind of clear that they arernt all there. The man in the mall had been busted for impersonating police officers before. I can agree with the man getting mad at him as the impersonator was clearly all there mentally.

Some of the videos I've seen though they get a little bent out of shape and are seeking to make a big video of it. I mean just say hey you're a phony now get lost. I actually saw one where the person got carried away and another vet said chill out with it in this case it was pretty obvious that the person dressed up was not all there.

Also I knew of a Vietnam Vet that had severe paranoid schizophrenia he lived in one of those half way house deals. Anyway thus guy would often stand and direct traffic some people thought he was just waving and gave him an American flag which he kept. Now this man sometimes he'd wear partial uniform. If you where to walk up and ask him chances are high that he might give you a strange sounding story which would lead one to believe that he was not legit when he was. This is why I do not agree with the overly aggressive clips you can find. Shipley checks and double checks then he gives the person a chance to recant and stop their claims only then dose he post their "deeds" publicly.

As to the Texas Congressman that type of thing will always occur and unfortunately many people fall for it but what is political office ever anyway but a person saying what they think their largest likely voting group wants to hear? I'll bet he well pleased the people he wanted to please.
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