New Alan Turing Film

Otto Harkaman · 01-09-15, 05:00 PM

^ Also if CCIP hadn't made me aware of the importance Wireless Direction Finding or also Wireless Traffic Analysis. I would have missed an important part of the intelligence puzzle. It gets lost I think in the current Alan Turing "Bombe" craze.

Here is a time link about Harry Hinsley in Secrets Of War, Shadows Of The Third Reich 07 The Ultra Enigma, which focuses on D/F

I said earlier I thought B.P. (Bletchley Park) was involved in the hunting of the Bismarck and Hinsley was at Bletchley but I am a little disappointed. Reading Beesly I couldn't wait to get to the chapter on the hunting of the Bismarck and I thought he would confirm to me that Bletchley was important in finding her. But right off he states "knowledge gained from cryptanalysis played a very minor part.

I am still not done with the chapter yet so...

Rockstar · 01-09-15, 06:40 PM

Thing is everyone involved; humint, elint and sigint to one degree or another played a part in finding Bismark. And though one may have played more of a role over the other in finding her. The real prize is that if all three came to the same conclusions it provided hard evidence Brit intel sources were on the right track and working like they should.

Otto Harkaman · 01-09-15, 06:43 PM

^ Yes I agree

Otto Harkaman · 01-09-15, 11:35 PM

Well girlfriend was in a foul mood tonight so "Imitation Game" is on hold, I am going to watch (by myself) "Age of Heroes" which is about Ian Fleming's formation of the 30 Assault Commandos. I first became aware of the 30 Assault Unit from watching "Dieppe Uncovered" which I mentioned before. Beesly in his book gives a brief mention to the importance of "Pinch" raids to obtain Intelligence material. Supposedly according to David O'Keefe Dieppe was a "Pinch" raid to obtain one of the new naval Enigma machines. Obviously the "raid" went horrible wrong and it was covered up as a botched trial invasion.

Not expecting much from the movie, bad reviews, oh well need something to take my mind off of girls with caustic tempers.

Sailor Steve · 01-10-15, 12:08 AM

Wow. I may actually have to go see this one in the theater.

Cybermat47 · 01-10-15, 01:47 AM

I would post the Beneficial Cucumber picture here, but I don't think it would be suitable

Otto Harkaman · 01-10-15, 09:27 AM

Well watched a good bit of that "Age of Heroes" last night. As critics said it was very low budget.

I think more could have been done with camera shots and portraying actually infantry tactics. No white camouflage smocks, dark clothing, crossing miles of open countryside in the snow in broad daylight, walking directly on the ridge line in broad daylight etc. etc. I guess the cameraman and director thought these were pretty shots.

Yeah it was pretty bad but got me asleep.

vienna · 01-10-15, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Wow. I may actually have to go see this one in the theater.

I went to the theater to see "The Imitation Game" about a week after it was released here in the US. I really dislike going to the movie theaters, but I was very curious to see the film. I can say it was well worth the effort. Well done and faithful to the history, even with artistic license...

Otto Harkaman · 01-11-15, 09:55 AM

Finally watched the movie last night. It was OK, pretty complex subject for a movie. Its almost a dramatization of all Bletchley Park and attributing everything to Turing which wasn't true. I liked it because I've been reading so much about B.P. and Enigma but it might be pretty confusing to someone who doesn't know what the movie is suppose to be about.

01-09-15, 05:00 PM	#1
Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,196 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	^ Also if CCIP hadn't made me aware of the importance Wireless Direction Finding or also Wireless Traffic Analysis. I would have missed an important part of the intelligence puzzle. It gets lost I think in the current Alan Turing "Bombe" craze. Here is a time link about Harry Hinsley in Secrets Of War, Shadows Of The Third Reich 07 The Ultra Enigma, which focuses on D/F I said earlier I thought B.P. (Bletchley Park) was involved in the hunting of the Bismarck and Hinsley was at Bletchley but I am a little disappointed. Reading Beesly I couldn't wait to get to the chapter on the hunting of the Bismarck and I thought he would confirm to me that Bletchley was important in finding her. But right off he states "knowledge gained from cryptanalysis played a very minor part. I am still not done with the chapter yet so... __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm Last edited by Otto Harkaman; 01-09-15 at 05:12 PM.

01-09-15, 06:43 PM	#3
Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,196 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	^ Yes I agree __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

01-09-15, 11:35 PM	#4
Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,196 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Well girlfriend was in a foul mood tonight so "Imitation Game" is on hold, I am going to watch (by myself) "Age of Heroes" which is about Ian Fleming's formation of the 30 Assault Commandos. I first became aware of the 30 Assault Unit from watching "Dieppe Uncovered" which I mentioned before. Beesly in his book gives a brief mention to the importance of "Pinch" raids to obtain Intelligence material. Supposedly according to David O'Keefe Dieppe was a "Pinch" raid to obtain one of the new naval Enigma machines. Obviously the "raid" went horrible wrong and it was covered up as a botched trial invasion. Not expecting much from the movie, bad reviews, oh well need something to take my mind off of girls with caustic tempers. __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

01-10-15, 12:08 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Wow. I may actually have to go see this one in the theater. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	I would post the Beneficial Cucumber picture here, but I don't think it would be suitable __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

01-09-15, 06:40 PM	#2
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Thing is everyone involved; humint, elint and sigint to one degree or another played a part in finding Bismark. And though one may have played more of a role over the other in finding her. The real prize is that if all three came to the same conclusions it provided hard evidence Brit intel sources were on the right track and working like they should.

01-10-15, 09:27 AM	#7
Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,196 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Well watched a good bit of that "Age of Heroes" last night. As critics said it was very low budget. I think more could have been done with camera shots and portraying actually infantry tactics. No white camouflage smocks, dark clothing, crossing miles of open countryside in the snow in broad daylight, walking directly on the ridge line in broad daylight etc. etc. I guess the cameraman and director thought these were pretty shots. Yeah it was pretty bad but got me asleep. __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

01-11-15, 09:55 AM	#9
Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,196 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Finally watched the movie last night. It was OK, pretty complex subject for a movie. Its almost a dramatization of all Bletchley Park and attributing everything to Turing which wasn't true. I liked it because I've been reading so much about B.P. and Enigma but it might be pretty confusing to someone who doesn't know what the movie is suppose to be about. __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm