Gunman takes hostages in Sydney - Page 5

Betonov · 12-15-14, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I've been impressed by the Islamic community's response to this. They did the usual (sane) thing and condemned the gunman, but one Mosque (the closest to the siege, I think) actually went as far as to host a inter-faith prayer vigil for the hostages. While the gunman was spreading a message of hate in the name of Islam, his fellow Muslims were inviting a Rabbi into a Mosque.

Too bad the media will somehow forget to look into this

d@rk51d3 · 12-15-14, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Agreed. The NSW Police are a great bunch.

It's a shame the gunman died. I would've liked to have seen him on trial, and rotting in prison .......

We had that chance already, and our legal system lubed up and bent over for him.

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 04:16 PM

What FireArm did he have and where did he get it?
We all know Laws prevent this type thing.

Rockstar · 12-15-14, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

What FireArm did he have and where did he get it?
We all know Laws prevent this type thing.

You know what they say: "It isn't illegal until ya get caught"

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

You know what they say: "It isn't illegal until ya get caught"

But from all the past 'Gun Laws Solve everything' threads?
Surely this should not have happened down under!
Or could it be, no, it can't be!
Takeing Gun ownership from Law abideing people doesn't work?
WT??

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:03 PM

It sure helped in Pennsylvania today.

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:07 PM

Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

eddie · 12-15-14, 10:12 PM

TorpX · 12-15-14, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

Of course, if it is a anti-American, or gun control "political diatribe", that's completely different.

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

And here all along I thought the British were masters at off brand humor.
Thank You for correcting that mistaken thought.
I hoped you ducked at the irony of several old threads as relate to this.
Then again? You probably cringe at some of Monty Pythons work.
Simple minds and such.
To each his own I say.

Oh. And please feel free to report my posts if they offend you and your safe little world.
I travel, work, and live in some of the worst places in the U.S.A. you can be thankful you will never see.

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

And here all along I thought the British were masters at off brand humor.
Thank You for correcting that mistaken thought.
I hoped you ducked at the irony of several old threads as relate to this.
Then again? You probably cringe at some of Monty Pythons work.
Simple minds and such.
To each his own I say.

Oh. And please feel free to report my posts if they offend you and your safe little world.
I travel, work, and live in some of the worst places in the U.S.A. you can be thankful you will never see.

I give up with this place, I really do. Whatever happened to tact? And respect for other people? When the Boston bomber did his thing, did we start making jokes about the US?
I mean, seriously, two people have died today and all you guys can talk about is gun control, sitting there gloating because you think that gun control is the ultimate answer?
Quite sickening if I'm honest.
I don't care if you think I'm from some fluffy world, I don't really care what parts of the US have been seen or not seen, I just thought, for one deluded stupid minute that this forum was meant to be run with some decorum and respect. Stupid me.
What a ****ing joke.

Jeff-Groves · 12-15-14, 10:48 PM

An now may you understand why I gave up the privateer account.
We, and I mean you and I and others can not make a comment that is not distorted no matter how hard we try to phrase it for proper reading.
You think I like that people died?
Am I serious about goading some that made big issues about Laws that should be passed in MY Country? (Well, that one Yes)
I really enjoyed your point of view on alot of things but if your gonna tap out?
I'm probably not far behind you.
(You didn't answer me about Monty Python!)

Cybermat47 · 12-15-14, 10:53 PM

Okay, never mind my last post (easy to do, I just deleted it). I think everyone's just gone slightly crazy from all the disgusting **** that's been going on. And it is the end of the year.

Let's just take a deep breath, and get away from our computers for a bit.

Let's focus on what we have in common, rather than our differences.

Oberon · 12-15-14, 10:59 PM

For what it's worth, and this is rather off-topic, but when it's come to the whole gun control thing I've always tried to understand both sides of the story. I'm neither pro- or anti- when it comes to American gun control laws. It is, after all, a purely American situation and nothing that I say or do will influence the US congress. I have expressed viewpoints on the situation, and heard viewpoints in return and I'm not about to turn around and say to Americans "You shouldn't have guns", if I would say anything it would be "I guess you have to accept the risks that come with guns, such as police that are armed like the military and schools that look like prisons"
Again, this is all off-topic.

Now, Jeff...if I have misread your intentions (and I'm starting to realise that I think I have), then I apologise, but when I come into a thread like this and the fifth comment is a rather gloating "Good thing they have all that gun control", then honestly I get rather annoyed at the insensitivity of the people involved.
Compare and contrast with the responses to the Boston bombings:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203749

Sure, we got into the old Yubba/Bubblehead game, but the tone was much more respectful from the non-Americans to the Americans. Why was the same respect not returned in this instance?

That's really the thing that grinds me gears in this instance. But...I seem to be expecting too much from some people these days. I don't know about tapping out, God knows I've come damn close over the past few months but I know too many good people here to do that, so I guess you're stuck with me.

Oh, and in regards to Monty Python, well...that's something completely different.

Stealhead · 12-15-14, 11:01 PM

This seems fitting in some strange way.

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Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Okay, never mind my last post (easy to do, I just deleted it). I think everyone's just gone slightly crazy from all the disgusting ** that's been going on. And it is the end of the year. Let's just take a deep breath, and get away from our computers for a bit. Let's focus on what we have in common, rather than our differences. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394** Last edited by Cybermat47; 12-15-14 at 11:04 PM.

12-15-14, 04:16 PM	#63
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,655 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	What FireArm did he have and where did he get it? We all know Laws prevent this type thing.

12-15-14, 10:03 PM	#66
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It sure helped in Pennsylvania today.

12-15-14, 10:07 PM	#67
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Anyway, this has got nothing to do with gun control, and to be honest I think it's pretty disrespectful to those who have died here today to try and wedge some kind of political diatribe into it.

12-15-14, 10:48 PM	#72
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,655 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	An now may you understand why I gave up the privateer account. We, and I mean you and I and others can not make a comment that is not distorted no matter how hard we try to phrase it for proper reading. You think I like that people died? Am I serious about goading some that made big issues about Laws that should be passed in MY Country? (Well, that one Yes) I really enjoyed your point of view on alot of things but if your gonna tap out? I'm probably not far behind you. (You didn't answer me about Monty Python!)

12-15-14, 10:59 PM	#74
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	For what it's worth, and this is rather off-topic, but when it's come to the whole gun control thing I've always tried to understand both sides of the story. I'm neither pro- or anti- when it comes to American gun control laws. It is, after all, a purely American situation and nothing that I say or do will influence the US congress. I have expressed viewpoints on the situation, and heard viewpoints in return and I'm not about to turn around and say to Americans "You shouldn't have guns", if I would say anything it would be "I guess you have to accept the risks that come with guns, such as police that are armed like the military and schools that look like prisons" Again, this is all off-topic. Now, Jeff...if I have misread your intentions (and I'm starting to realise that I think I have), then I apologise, but when I come into a thread like this and the fifth comment is a rather gloating "Good thing they have all that gun control", then honestly I get rather annoyed at the insensitivity of the people involved. Compare and contrast with the responses to the Boston bombings: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203749 Sure, we got into the old Yubba/Bubblehead game, but the tone was much more respectful from the non-Americans to the Americans. Why was the same respect not returned in this instance? That's really the thing that grinds me gears in this instance. But...I seem to be expecting too much from some people these days. I don't know about tapping out, God knows I've come damn close over the past few months but I know too many good people here to do that, so I guess you're stuck with me. Oh, and in regards to Monty Python, well...that's something completely different.

12-15-14, 11:01 PM	#75
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	This seems fitting in some strange way.