Gay Apple

[Oberon]

It's funny really, the biggest amount of fuss about homosexuality comes from homophobes, if there was no homophobia there would be no 'gay pride', because it would not be seen as something abnormal or wrong. There would be no people saying 'oh, men had better keep their backs against the wall', just as noone says 'oh, women had better keep their vaginas against the wall' if a heterosexual man announces he is single, even though the rate of heterosexual rape is far higher than that of homosexual.

Let's put it another way. Name one country on this planet where heterosexuality might place you in social or judicial difficulty. Not just the act, and by which I mean standard consensual sex between two adults of legal age, but also the feeling. Name me a country where you are expected from birth to only be interested in people of your own gender, and expressing an attitude contrary to this would risk social ostracism, and potential legal action...with the added possibility of execution thrown into the mix, or perhaps castration.

Now try the reverse, where homosexuality is illegal or seen as.socially or morally wrong and compare the numbers.

I'll wait...

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Yeah, but here's the thing: straight people have never been an oppressed group. Name one country where straight people can't get married.


Straight pride doesn't exist, because straight shame doesn't exist. Straight people who died in the holocaust didn't die because they were straight, but gay people who were killed died BECAUSE they were gay.

I've been bullied for being autistic. As a result, I'm proud to be autistic. Why? Because that's who I am. Gay pride isn't being proud of being attracted to people of the same sex, it's being proud of being yourself, even though people hate you for it.

Originally Posted by Platapus

Very well put. For those who have never experienced official organizational discrimination, it can be difficult to understand the importance of being recognized for what you are.

It is one thing to be discriminated against by people. That has always and will probably will happen. This is different when there are laws/regulations/rules from governing bodies that officially discriminate against someone.

Perhaps it is the interpretation of "pride" that is awkward. It may not be the best word. It is not so much being proud of being (insert discrimination category), it is more like, "I don't have conceal it any more." When you have been discriminated against, being able to not conceal something can be uplifting and empowering.

Yes, there is no "straight pride" because there has not been a history of straight people needing to conceal their straight orientation in order to get/keep a job or be a parent.

Both well said.

[ColdFront]

Not hardware, not software, therefore the tech world doesn't care about Tim coming out of the closet. A fundamental misreading of the tech world, which is a sign of inability to understand the tech world. Enough said.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

So that's why the iPhone sux (jks).

Highest-profile CEO to come out (of the closet).

Tim Cook - "I'm proud to be gay"


Good publicity for ya, Tim.

Still won't solve your 'iPhone is crap' issues though.



Well, i'm coming out today, i'm going to get myself some sunshine and head down the beach.



SOURCE

Actually... just by opening this thread you prove your self wrong.
I personally think that some gay activism may be over the top yet claiming that being a guy is just like being left handed is bullox and you know it.
What really bothers you?

[Betonov]

Right now I wish I was gay.
The new waitress at the bar is going to haunt my dreams
Talk about a perfect... EVERYTHING

[Safe-Keeper]

I would reply, but I see that Cybermat and Platypus have already said what I would have, so no need. Thanks, chaps.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by MH

Actually... just by opening this thread you prove your self wrong.
I personally think that some gay activism may be over the top yet claiming that being a guy is just like being left handed is bullox and you know it.
What really bothers you?

Exactly. Good post.


And this is one of two threads the OP has started recently that's pissing people off. He mightn't be a troll, but he's definitely having the same effect as one.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

And this is one of two threads the OP has started recently that's pissing people off. He mightn't be a troll, but he's definitely having the same effect as one.

Duly noted.

Pissing people off? That a Ceo has come out? That's the joke of the century.
If me calling a gay person left-handed is pissing people off then wow, seriously, there needs to be absolute and complete censoring and muzzling of anything even remotely that can be and will be taken out of context and twisted into a 'op is possibly trolling and has a motive for starting flame wars.
Well, you won't have to speak for those pissed-off people anymore, lucky you!

In fact, you should be an admin so you can stomp on threads like this and insinuate a bit more about the illusionary motives of certain threads and their reasons.

And keep those rose-tinted glasses on and discuss all things glorious and rosy in this world.

Time to leave subsim.

No more controversial (in some peoples' minds threads, no more insinuating, no more supposed trolling, no more people putting words in my mouth, no more assuming magical links to neo-nazi sites exist, no more anything in fact.

Good bye and good luck.

Over and out.



No point in starting a new thread to get attention.

EDIT: While i'm at it, mods/Neal, are you able to delete my account please and send me an email to confirm it has been done?
Thank you.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

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If you don't see the CEO of Apple being gay as a big deal, why did you make a thread about it?

Also, if you actually read my post, you'll see that I said that you're not a troll, but you're having the same affects as one.


I never said you had an ulterior motive. I said that you're posting before thinking. It's hardly a rare thing, I do it all the time.

[Jeff-Groves]

Do you really need to?

[Jeff-Groves]

[Buddahaid]

This is ridiculous. I can understand people having differences of opinion and whatever pet peeves, and phobias, they choose to relish in, but what is it that makes it so damned important that a few words to the contrary just can't be ignored? Are we adults or children playing in a sandbox that run home to Mommy's skirt when the going gets rough?

[Jeff-Groves]

Seems we've come adapt at posting our superior opinions and then defending them as if they mean something no one should object to.
I only see further posts as

[Oberon]

I think of it more as the trenches, both sides are firmly entrenched and are not going anywhere. Neither side can break through each other or defeat the other, but that's not stopping them from launching attacks.

The end result means GT now looks like this:

[Jeff-Groves]

something like that yes.