This will end well...

TarJak · 08-08-14, 08:16 AM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-0...n-iraq/5657202

Here we go, strap yourselves in for some very nasty action over the next few days.

Oberon · 08-08-14, 08:35 AM

Obama criticism even though it's likely a Republican president would have done exactly the same thing in five...four...three...

Dread Knot · 08-08-14, 08:36 AM

During his statement from the White House, Obama said again that U.S. ground forces would not be returning to Iraq. There's no American military solution to the situation in Iraq, he said---putting special emphasis on the word "American."

I'm not sure if that's a subtle call for allies, but somehow I don't expect a flood of non-American volunteers flocking in to provide a solution. Not after the Syria debacle.

Oberon · 08-08-14, 08:38 AM

Well, now is the best time for the RAF to act, the Canadian Lancaster is arriving in the country today so we'll have double our usual firepower.

Dread Knot · 08-08-14, 08:51 AM

Getting reports on the radio that US aircraft have struck an ISIS artillery position shelling the Kurdish capital of Irbil. Apparently they are only a 30 minutes drive away.

That close. Either the Kurds are over-stretched or ISIS is better on the offensive than I thought.

Armistead · 08-08-14, 11:48 AM

Wonder how Obama feels that his stupidity was probably the cause of this.

Jimbuna · 08-08-14, 12:10 PM

I hope effective control of the air will work as well as it did in Libya and assisist local forces on the ground becoming more effective.

Someone has to stop IS (as they are now known) before the ME becomes something even more unimanagable than what it already is.

Oberon · 08-08-14, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Wonder how Obama feels that his stupidity was probably the cause of this.

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President Barack Obama

Jimbuna · 08-08-14, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, now is the best time for the RAF to act, the Canadian Lancaster is arriving in the country today so we'll have double our usual firepower.

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eddie · 08-08-14, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Wonder how Obama feels that his stupidity was probably the cause of this.

The US Army would have gone in a long time ago, but they are short of ammo and military vehicles. You know, all that stuff that was given to the FEMA Army,lol

Schroeder · 08-08-14, 02:45 PM

It's about bloody time that something was done.

Armistead · 08-08-14, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

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President Barack Obama

I have said all along Bush is an Idiot and certainly the cause of the mess.

Oberon · 08-08-14, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I have said all along Bush is an Idiot and certainly the cause of the mess.

So why blame Obama for causing it? Sure, he might not have done much to fix it, but he did what the US public wanted, got the US out of Iraq as quickly as he could. His Middle Eastern policy is perhaps a bit naive, but short of invading and occupying every nation around Iraq, and then every nation around every nation, up to the European and Indian borders, I don't see how Obama could have prevented this from happening. It was pretty much a guaranteed occurrence as soon as Saddam was removed from power, we've all talked about it, and we all knew it was coming. Afghanistan will probably be next.

CaptainMattJ. · 08-08-14, 03:51 PM

When has the failure of operation "Iraqi Freedom" ever been in question. It doesnt matter how long we stayed there, how much money we poured into that place, we couldnt have ever hoped to turn Iraq into a self regulating state. There was never going to be a victory in iraq, and absolutely no part of the operation was even remotely worth the nearly 4500 killed and over 32,000 wounded, nor was it worth the $6 trillion we're going to have to pay as a result.

I dont know why Obama didnt just evacuate immediately and cut his losses. It doesnt matter when we wouldve left, the end result wouldve been the same. Now Obama wants to fly expensive jets and drop expensive bombs against a guerilla fighting force in a toilet halfway around the world and for what? Have we not learned ANYTHING from vietnam? You cant bomb a fighting force like ISIS and expect ANY kind of effectiveness, and you most certainly cant expect that bombing them will stop what theyre doing nor will it ever restore ANY stability to the region. Its time to end our false sense of duty to these armpits of the world and just let them kill each other, since thats all they seem to want now. Let them find their own damn peace, because they sure dont seem to EVER make use of anything we ever give to them or help with.

nikimcbee · 08-08-14, 04:02 PM

I just want to know where all the war protesters are?
No blood for Iraqi oil.

08-08-14, 08:16 AM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	This will end well... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-0...n-iraq/5657202 Here we go, strap yourselves in for some very nasty action over the next few days.

08-08-14, 11:48 AM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Wonder how Obama feels that his stupidity was probably the cause of this. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

08-08-14, 12:10 PM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I hope effective control of the air will work as well as it did in Libya and assisist local forces on the ground becoming more effective. Someone has to stop IS (as they are now known) before the ME becomes something even more unimanagable than what it already is. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	It's about bloody time that something was done. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

08-08-14, 03:51 PM	#14
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	When has the failure of operation "Iraqi Freedom" ever been in question. It doesnt matter how long we stayed there, how much money we poured into that place, we couldnt have ever hoped to turn Iraq into a self regulating state. There was never going to be a victory in iraq, and absolutely no part of the operation was even remotely worth the nearly 4500 killed and over 32,000 wounded, nor was it worth the $6 trillion we're going to have to pay as a result. I dont know why Obama didnt just evacuate immediately and cut his losses. It doesnt matter when we wouldve left, the end result wouldve been the same. Now Obama wants to fly expensive jets and drop expensive bombs against a guerilla fighting force in a toilet halfway around the world and for what? Have we not learned ANYTHING from vietnam? You cant bomb a fighting force like ISIS and expect ANY kind of effectiveness, and you most certainly cant expect that bombing them will stop what theyre doing nor will it ever restore ANY stability to the region. Its time to end our false sense of duty to these armpits of the world and just let them kill each other, since thats all they seem to want now. Let them find their own damn peace, because they sure dont seem to EVER make use of anything we ever give to them or help with. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

08-08-14, 08:35 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Obama criticism even though it's likely a Republican president would have done exactly the same thing in five...four...three...

08-08-14, 08:36 AM	#3
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	During his statement from the White House, Obama said again that U.S. ground forces would not be returning to Iraq. There's no American military solution to the situation in Iraq, he said---putting special emphasis on the word "American." I'm not sure if that's a subtle call for allies, but somehow I don't expect a flood of non-American volunteers flocking in to provide a solution. Not after the Syria debacle.

08-08-14, 08:38 AM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well, now is the best time for the RAF to act, the Canadian Lancaster is arriving in the country today so we'll have double our usual firepower.

08-08-14, 08:51 AM	#5
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Getting reports on the radio that US aircraft have struck an ISIS artillery position shelling the Kurdish capital of Irbil. Apparently they are only a 30 minutes drive away. That close. Either the Kurds are over-stretched or ISIS is better on the offensive than I thought.

08-08-14, 04:02 PM	#15
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I just want to know where all the war protesters are? No blood for Iraqi oil. __________________