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TarJak 08-08-14 08:16 AM

This will end well...
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-0...n-iraq/5657202

Here we go, strap yourselves in for some very nasty action over the next few days.

Oberon 08-08-14 08:35 AM

Obama criticism even though it's likely a Republican president would have done exactly the same thing in five...four...three...

Dread Knot 08-08-14 08:36 AM

During his statement from the White House, Obama said again that U.S. ground forces would not be returning to Iraq. There's no American military solution to the situation in Iraq, he said---putting special emphasis on the word "American."

I'm not sure if that's a subtle call for allies, but somehow I don't expect a flood of non-American volunteers flocking in to provide a solution. Not after the Syria debacle.

Oberon 08-08-14 08:38 AM

Well, now is the best time for the RAF to act, the Canadian Lancaster is arriving in the country today so we'll have double our usual firepower. :yeah:

Dread Knot 08-08-14 08:51 AM

Getting reports on the radio that US aircraft have struck an ISIS artillery position shelling the Kurdish capital of Irbil. Apparently they are only a 30 minutes drive away.

That close. Either the Kurds are over-stretched or ISIS is better on the offensive than I thought.

Armistead 08-08-14 11:48 AM

Wonder how Obama feels that his stupidity was probably the cause of this.

Jimbuna 08-08-14 12:10 PM

I hope effective control of the air will work as well as it did in Libya and assisist local forces on the ground becoming more effective.

Someone has to stop IS (as they are now known) before the ME becomes something even more unimanagable than what it already is.

Oberon 08-08-14 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2231623)
Wonder how Obama feels that his stupidity was probably the cause of this.

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Jimbuna 08-08-14 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2231589)
Well, now is the best time for the RAF to act, the Canadian Lancaster is arriving in the country today so we'll have double our usual firepower. :yeah:


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eddie 08-08-14 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2231623)
Wonder how Obama feels that his stupidity was probably the cause of this.

The US Army would have gone in a long time ago, but they are short of ammo and military vehicles. You know, all that stuff that was given to the FEMA Army,lol

Schroeder 08-08-14 02:45 PM

It's about bloody time that something was done.:shifty:

Armistead 08-08-14 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2231632)



I have said all along Bush is an Idiot and certainly the cause of the mess.

Oberon 08-08-14 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2231673)
I have said all along Bush is an Idiot and certainly the cause of the mess.

So why blame Obama for causing it? Sure, he might not have done much to fix it, but he did what the US public wanted, got the US out of Iraq as quickly as he could. His Middle Eastern policy is perhaps a bit naive, but short of invading and occupying every nation around Iraq, and then every nation around every nation, up to the European and Indian borders, I don't see how Obama could have prevented this from happening. It was pretty much a guaranteed occurrence as soon as Saddam was removed from power, we've all talked about it, and we all knew it was coming. Afghanistan will probably be next.

CaptainMattJ. 08-08-14 03:51 PM

When has the failure of operation "Iraqi Freedom" ever been in question. It doesnt matter how long we stayed there, how much money we poured into that place, we couldnt have ever hoped to turn Iraq into a self regulating state. There was never going to be a victory in iraq, and absolutely no part of the operation was even remotely worth the nearly 4500 killed and over 32,000 wounded, nor was it worth the $6 trillion we're going to have to pay as a result.

I dont know why Obama didnt just evacuate immediately and cut his losses. It doesnt matter when we wouldve left, the end result wouldve been the same. Now Obama wants to fly expensive jets and drop expensive bombs against a guerilla fighting force in a toilet halfway around the world and for what? Have we not learned ANYTHING from vietnam? You cant bomb a fighting force like ISIS and expect ANY kind of effectiveness, and you most certainly cant expect that bombing them will stop what theyre doing nor will it ever restore ANY stability to the region. Its time to end our false sense of duty to these armpits of the world and just let them kill each other, since thats all they seem to want now. Let them find their own damn peace, because they sure dont seem to EVER make use of anything we ever give to them or help with.

nikimcbee 08-08-14 04:02 PM

I just want to know where all the war protesters are?
No blood for Iraqi oil.:haha:


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