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Old 05-31-14, 02:48 PM   #1
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I always find it amusing how it stays the same no matter who is in the White House or which party is in power; under Bush, the knock was it was a plot by the "New World Order" of the wealthy Far Right; under Clinton, it was a plot by the "New World order" of the 'one-world' Far Left; under Daddy Bush and Reagan, it was a plot by the corporations and the military for the Far Right, and etc., etc., etc., ...

I would not be surprised if there was not some version of a tinfoil tri-corner hat wearer back in 1784 who was warning the newly created US Army was a plot by the Federalists or Whigs or whoever was around at the time...

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"...


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Old 05-31-14, 02:54 PM   #2
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I didn't knew it was a conspiracy.
For some people that is exactly what it is.

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I always find it amusing how it stays the same no matter who is in the White House or which party is in power; under Bush, the knock was it was a plot by the "New World Order" of the wealthy Far Right; under Clinton, it was a plot by the "New World order" of the 'one-world' Far Left; under Daddy Bush and Reagan, it was a plot by the corporations and the military for the Far Right, and etc., etc., etc., ...
It's a good story. One side gets excited, the other side gets defensive...and the world keeps spinning.
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Old 05-31-14, 02:58 PM   #3
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I always find it amusing how it stays the same no matter who is in the White House or which party is in power; under Bush, the knock was it was a plot by the "New World Order" of the wealthy Far Right; under Clinton, it was a plot by the "New World order" of the 'one-world' Far Left; under Daddy Bush and Reagan, it was a plot by the corporations and the military for the Far Right, and etc., etc., etc., ...

I would not be surprised if there was not some version of a tinfoil tri-corner hat wearer back in 1784 who was warning the newly created US Army was a plot by the Federalists or Whigs or whoever was around at the time...

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"...


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When I saw the headlines I first toke a look at i then I clicked on the link, read the story. Toke a look at the newspaper...looks like one of these mainstream media...yes I'm going to post the article on Subsim to get a discussion...I didn't knew it was a conspiracy or that this Jones have mention this on radio/youtube.

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I always find it amusing how it stays the same no matter who is in the White House or which party is in power; "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"...

Kinda like how Obama is both a Nazi and a Commie?

He's a Nazi...and a Commie.
He's a Muslim....and an atheist.
He's a ruthless dictator who spies on and imprisons his enemies...and a weak, Mom-jeans-wearing wuss who won't stand up to his enemies.

A man of whoever you need him to be, our President(s).
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Guys we just leave it here. I didn't knew it was a conspiracy(thought that WT was a decent and mainstream media)

I know that every American President have been accused of almost every conspiracy-like-stuff and so will the next coming President be

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Old 05-31-14, 03:14 PM   #6
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Guys we just leave it here. I didn't knew it was a conspiracy(thought that WT was a decent and mainstream media)
You probably didn't know, but The Washington Times was founded by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon of the Unification Church ("Moonies") fame. It's always had a rather hard-right, super-conservative reputation. As a newspaper, it loses money every year, but the cult...um...church keeps it afloat.
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@mapuc

I hope you're not under the impression myself and others are trying to mock or belittle your OP; you are very probably unaware of the provenance of the article and/or the news paper it came from. Here in the US, there has been an awful lot of these sort of wildly exaggerated claims over many, many years, if not decades. The sad thing is the rest of the world, not knowing the full context, quite often takes these reports as truth. If it is any consolation, an awful lot of US citizens are prone to accepting erroneous, out of context reports from outside news sources as truth, often skewing our viewpoint of the rest of the world. You are not alone in this...


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thank you for you kindness to inform me about this

Have learned something new today.

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Old 05-31-14, 08:41 PM   #9
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thank you for you kindness to inform me about this
Have learned something new today.
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Ya, never trust any North American (includes Canada) news media to tell all the truth.
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^ Not his fault! goes back to Thomas Jefferson, the first Democrat, and his first lady (Sally Hemmings) and his inaugural address after a bitter election: " “Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all Republicans, we are all Federalists.” Whatever their differences, both parties are loyal to the same Constitution and its principles—though they may interpret and apply them somewhat differently.
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