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Originally Posted by u crank
I used to say I believe there is a God and go from there. I now say, if there is a God and then discuss it. Since it can't/hasn't been proven either way I think, to me anyway, that it's a reasonable stance. And if there is a God I think he wouldn't expect any more than that in light of the proof he has given for His existence. He may have reasons...
I agree. It does sound like what men want all the time. A far more likely thing that God would want is for man to try to understand his creation through logic and science and do his best to preserve, protect and improve it. Oh yea and that whole love thing to. 
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Well, my problem with believing in God is that you would think he would give us a clear revelation so we could know him. For me...religion gives NONE, other than some elements of good philosophy. People talk of how fine tuned the universe is, but is it? For the most part man lives in pain and suffering. I would think if God exist, then he would've gave us a clear just revelation....to all man, instead of first just one tribe. The revelation we have now has caused mankind more misery than anything, much to helpless children.
Maybe we were seeded by aliens, maybe there is God, maybe not. The best I can do is be sincere in trying and try to love others, but sadly that isn't enough for any of the religions...I also deplore the element of human sacrifice, something man did since his beginning to please the gods...Is Christ really different? Why should I be condemned by the actions of Adam and Eve and Christ condemned for my actions? The themes of religion are all the same, man is condemned for being human, fear, guilt, rewards, severe eternal punishments...
enough babbling...