What the heck!?

CCIP · 05-13-14, 11:57 AM

I've had some pretty unpleasant experiences with homeless people in Florida city parks. Honestly, I think the problem is partially that apparently everyone will stand up for rights of everyone to use public land, but actual organized, publically-funded space for homeless people is "communism" and is bad. Sorry, but 99% of homelessness is disgusting and shameful. Homeless people shouldn't be in a first world nation's city parks, period, and it's important for everyone to contribute to doing something rather than complain about it and make cheap PR. I support the fine in this case, but I also support better and more extensive use of taxpayer money to actually set up better management of this kind of thing - there's lots of good, working models for this around the world.

Wolferz · 05-13-14, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

I've had some pretty unpleasant experiences with homeless people in Florida city parks. Honestly, I think the problem is partially that apparently everyone will stand up for rights of everyone to use public land, but actual organized, publically-funded space for homeless people is "communism" and is bad. Sorry, but 99% of homelessness is disgusting and shameful. Homeless people shouldn't be in a first world nation's city parks, period, and it's important for everyone to contribute to doing something rather than complain about it and make cheap PR. I support the fine in this case, but I also support better and more extensive use of taxpayer money to actually set up better management of this kind of thing - there's lots of good, working models for this around the world.

The government tried a little program called government housing. The tenants turned them into grassless slums rife with crime. Many of the buildings have since been torn down and no new ones were built. It might have been better to house these people in FEMA trailer parks. They have lots of trailers just sitting in a field somewhere. There's also much that could be done to house the homeless using shipping containers. Right Neal?

Or we could send them to district 9.

I'll be fine as long as nobody tries to steal my refrigerator box and my Wal-Mart shopping cart.

Wolferz · 05-13-14, 12:34 PM

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Comfort station for the hungry?

Just a polite term for a toilet facility.
He who eats does need to dump the waste products.

The homeless were probably seen defecating on the grounds because they couldn't get past the homosexuals to reach a toilet stall. Just as well. There is never any striking paper in there anyhoo.

AVGWarhawk · 05-13-14, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Just a polite term for a toilet facility.
He who eats does need to dump the waste products.

Stop feeding them. Problem solved.

Wolferz · 05-13-14, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Stop feeding them. Problem solved.

FEMA camp? I hear they have the guillotines installed and ready to use.

Jimbuna · 05-14-14, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

FEMA camp? I hear they have the guillotines installed and ready to use.

Only in the French speaking quarter.

Cybermat47 · 05-14-14, 05:13 AM

Everytime I see a homeless person, I cry a bit inside. You think of poverty as something that happens in other places, but it's at the very heart of countries like Australia and the US.

Platapus · 05-14-14, 07:29 PM

There is a right way and a wrong way to help the homeless. The wrong way is to violate an ordinance. I am sure there were multiple legal ways this couple could have helped the homeless. But for some reason they choose not to do it and instead decided to violate and continue to violate a law.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. However good intentions does not trump laws.

Wolferz · 05-14-14, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

There is a right way and a wrong way to help the homeless. The wrong way is to violate an ordinance. I am sure there were multiple legal ways this couple could have helped the homeless. But for some reason they choose not to do it and instead decided to violate and continue to violate a law.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. However good intentions does not trump laws.

Laws are only for providing a judicial recourse for meting out a punishment when the law is broken or ignored. I'm sure there are plenty of people who hold barbecues in the park in question and they probably share the food with friends and relatives and maybe even the odd stranger. Should they be hammered by the long arm of the law too? Likely not as long as uncle Barney doesn't take a dump in the bushes.
If the homeless have no right to enjoy the park in their own way (getting a free meal from a generous couple of retired residents) then the law becomes hypocritical. Kind of like your signature wouldn't you agree? The only people who should be infracted in this instance is the ones who decided to defecate in a public place which seems to be the crux of the matter. So a couple of indigents chose to ruin it for their peers and the city decided to punish all of them by demanding a cease and desist order against the two benefactors in order to run all the hobos out at once.
Not exactly the Christian attitude by any stretch of the imagination. Just more asphalt for hell's thoroughfare.

05-13-14, 11:57 AM	#1
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I've had some pretty unpleasant experiences with homeless people in Florida city parks. Honestly, I think the problem is partially that apparently everyone will stand up for rights of everyone to use public land, but actual organized, publically-funded space for homeless people is "communism" and is bad. Sorry, but 99% of homelessness is disgusting and shameful. Homeless people shouldn't be in a first world nation's city parks, period, and it's important for everyone to contribute to doing something rather than complain about it and make cheap PR. I support the fine in this case, but I also support better and more extensive use of taxpayer money to actually set up better management of this kind of thing - there's lots of good, working models for this around the world. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

05-14-14, 05:13 AM	#7
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Everytime I see a homeless person, I cry a bit inside. You think of poverty as something that happens in other places, but it's at the very heart of countries like Australia and the US. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

05-14-14, 07:29 PM	#8
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,426 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	There is a right way and a wrong way to help the homeless. The wrong way is to violate an ordinance. I am sure there were multiple legal ways this couple could have helped the homeless. But for some reason they choose not to do it and instead decided to violate and continue to violate a law. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. However good intentions does not trump laws. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.