Swastikas and Germany in the modern day...

Skybird · 04-04-14, 05:34 PM

Popper looks to you like Hoppe? Less coffein and less alcohol, I would recommend.

Hoppe hardly can be excused to be a lefty. But Popper is extremely left-leaning. Hoppe was a student of Rothbard. Rothbard shared many views of von Mises and Hayek, but he split with von Mises over ethics. Rothbard also held some controversial views during the 50s and 60s, over black rights, women rights and Jews, but to some degree distanced himself from them later, to some degree I found some criticism of him also being abusive and intentionally misleading, to give him a bad name.

Von Mises probably was the most reasonable modern economist there was, if not by influence (he is not ignored for no reason by those who benefit from the state), then by his arguments and precise analysis and predictions. Short before his death he admitted that he was too long too naive regarding the nature of democracy, and that he overestimated it tremendously in an attempt to not wanting to see how ruinous it really is both materialistically and intellectually. If he would still live today, he probably would support the views of Hoppe.

Hayek was a student of von Mises, and was ignored by the mainstream for the same reason: he showed beyond doubt why the modern understanding of economy and especially money necessarily must lead to collapse, he also contributed quite profound analysis on the disastrous nature of socialism and totalitarianism. Since Hayek's views of what money is would have meant dramatic limitations of the powers for politicians, he was bypassed completely and instead politicians chose to go with Keynes who told them that they could endlessly make money as much as they want without creating value first. That's what the voters and the politicians wanted to hear, not those heavy burdens Hayek was promising them. And so, there we are. Read my new sig. I personally would not even dare to call Keynes' ideas a theory. It simply is populist drivel. He lived well by that and enjoyed the applause for sure.

04-04-14, 05:34 PM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,679 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Popper looks to you like Hoppe? Less coffein and less alcohol, I would recommend. Hoppe hardly can be excused to be a lefty. But Popper is extremely left-leaning. Hoppe was a student of Rothbard. Rothbard shared many views of von Mises and Hayek, but he split with von Mises over ethics. Rothbard also held some controversial views during the 50s and 60s, over black rights, women rights and Jews, but to some degree distanced himself from them later, to some degree I found some criticism of him also being abusive and intentionally misleading, to give him a bad name. Von Mises probably was the most reasonable modern economist there was, if not by influence (he is not ignored for no reason by those who benefit from the state), then by his arguments and precise analysis and predictions. Short before his death he admitted that he was too long too naive regarding the nature of democracy, and that he overestimated it tremendously in an attempt to not wanting to see how ruinous it really is both materialistically and intellectually. If he would still live today, he probably would support the views of Hoppe. Hayek was a student of von Mises, and was ignored by the mainstream for the same reason: he showed beyond doubt why the modern understanding of economy and especially money necessarily must lead to collapse, he also contributed quite profound analysis on the disastrous nature of socialism and totalitarianism. Since Hayek's views of what money is would have meant dramatic limitations of the powers for politicians, he was bypassed completely and instead politicians chose to go with Keynes who told them that they could endlessly make money as much as they want without creating value first. That's what the voters and the politicians wanted to hear, not those heavy burdens Hayek was promising them. And so, there we are. Read my new sig. I personally would not even dare to call Keynes' ideas a theory. It simply is populist drivel. He lived well by that and enjoyed the applause for sure. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.