I was surprised to learn this

Cybermat47 · 03-11-14, 04:41 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle...mopylae_(1941)

Who would've thought that Australian and New Zealand troops fought in the same place as the legendary 300 Spartans (and 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans)

Even though I'm an agnostic atheist, I can't help but wonder if the spirits of those Greek warriors somehow helped the Australians and New Zealanders...

I think I'll pass this on to other forums. I'm somehow extremely proud that troops from my country were in the same place and situation as the 300 Spartans (and 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans) who I admire so much.

Now, back to watching the 1962 epic The 300 Spartans

EDIT: Say, I wonder what the chances of one of the Australian, New Zealand or German troops being related to a Greek warrior who took part in the battle are?

Dread Knot · 03-11-14, 04:54 PM

That spot was a bit tougher to defend in 1941 since the sea has retreated from where it was in 480 BC.

Cybermat47 · 03-11-14, 04:57 PM

^^^

That's just a bit of a difference

Cybermat47 · 03-11-14, 05:01 PM

Woah, I'm watching The 300 Spartans, and who I think is Demophilus has what looks like Swastikas on his armour. Make of that what you will

Aktungbby · 03-11-14, 05:43 PM

Indeed!
Theories/Speculation

Modern interpretations of Greek mythological symbols on shields have appeared in film, television and in politics. Another popular symbol among the Greeks was one which became corrupted by the Nazi regime in the 1930s and '40s--the swastika. A pre-Christian symbol, the swastika was used extensively throughout the ancient world as a geometrical design, especially in Greece. Other symbols and designs for shields which are somewhat authentic have appeared in major motion pictures such as "Alexander" and "300," though it should be noted that the Spartans in "300" lacked the iconic inverted "V" symbol in its traditional colors, instead opting for an all-bronze face.

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_4586869_greek-mythology-shields.html#ixzz2vhEbcDeA
very close (left shield?!)>

Gargamel · 03-12-14, 07:28 AM

How can one be an agnostic atheist? Agnostics aren't sure, but atheists are. An atheist usually believes in the lack of a god more than a theist believes in one. Kinda hard to be both.

Herr-Berbunch · 03-12-14, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

...and who I think is Demophilus has what looks like Swastikas on his armour. Make of that what you will

I don't see what's funny. The symbol has been used all over the globe by many cultures, only to be hijacked in the early part of the 20th century by the monoballed* Austrian. Even the Jews used it.

*The other, if you need to ask, is in the Albert hall.

Herr-Berbunch · 03-12-14, 07:52 AM

And don't be an agnostic atheist, be a secular humanist.

Sailor Steve · 03-12-14, 08:54 AM

I had a friend who was a dyslexic atheist. He insisted there was no Dog.

I limit myself to being an insomniac dyslexic agnostic. I lie awake nights wondering whether there's a Dog or not.

Jimbuna · 03-12-14, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gargamel

How can one be an agnostic atheist? Agnostics aren't sure, but atheists are. An atheist usually believes in the lack of a god more than a theist believes in one. Kinda hard to be both.

Much like an awfully good oxymoron.

Spiced_Rum · 03-12-14, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I had a friend who was a dyslexic atheist. He insisted there was no Dog.

I limit myself to being an insomniac dyslexic agnostic. I lie awake nights wondering whether there's a Dog or not.

That is why I am always kind to puppies, because they are all the sons/daughters of Dog and Mankind's best friend.

BrucePartington · 03-12-14, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle...mopylae_(1941)

Who would've thought that Australian and New Zealand troops fought in the same place as the legendary 300 Spartans (and 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans)

Even though I'm an agnostic atheist, I can't help but wonder if the spirits of those Greek warriors somehow helped the Australians and New Zealanders...

I think I'll pass this on to other forums. I'm somehow extremely proud that troops from my country were in the same place and situation as the 300 Spartans (and 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans) who I admire so much.

Now, back to watching the 1962 epic The 300 Spartans

EDIT: Say, I wonder what the chances of one of the Australian, New Zealand or German troops being related to a Greek warrior who took part in the battle are?

George S. Patton:
"Through the travail of the ages
Midst the pomp and toil of war
Have I fought and strove and perished
Countless times upon this star.
I have sinned and I have suffered
Played the hero and the knave
Fought for belly, shame or country
And for each have found a grave.
So as through a glass and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names -- but always me."

Cybermat47 · 03-12-14, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gargamel

How can one be an agnostic atheist? Agnostics aren't sure, but atheists are. An atheist usually believes in the lack of a god more than a theist believes in one. Kinda hard to be both.

In my opinion, there's no God, but I don't dismiss the possibility entirely.

TarJak · 03-12-14, 11:46 PM

So you're either confused or agnostic.

Cybermat47 · 03-13-14, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak

So you're either confused or agnostic.

IDK LOL

03-11-14, 04:41 PM	#1
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	I was surprised to learn this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle...mopylae_(1941) Who would've thought that Australian and New Zealand troops fought in the same place as the legendary 300 Spartans (and 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans) Even though I'm an agnostic atheist, I can't help but wonder if the spirits of those Greek warriors somehow helped the Australians and New Zealanders... I think I'll pass this on to other forums. I'm somehow extremely proud that troops from my country were in the same place and situation as the 300 Spartans (and 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans) who I admire so much. Now, back to watching the 1962 epic The 300 Spartans EDIT: Say, I wonder what the chances of one of the Australian, New Zealand or German troops being related to a Greek warrior who took part in the battle are? __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394 Last edited by Cybermat47; 03-11-14 at 04:53 PM.

03-11-14, 04:57 PM	#3
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	^^^ That's just a bit of a difference __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

03-11-14, 05:01 PM	#4
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Woah, I'm watching The 300 Spartans, and who I think is Demophilus has what looks like Swastikas on his armour. Make of that what you will __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

03-11-14, 05:43 PM	#5
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,016 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Indeed! Theories/Speculation Modern interpretations of Greek mythological symbols on shields have appeared in film, television and in politics. Another popular symbol among the Greeks was one which became corrupted by the Nazi regime in the 1930s and '40s--the swastika. A pre-Christian symbol, the swastika was used extensively throughout the ancient world as a geometrical design, especially in Greece. Other symbols and designs for shields which are somewhat authentic have appeared in major motion pictures such as "Alexander" and "300," though it should be noted that the Spartans in "300" lacked the iconic inverted "V" symbol in its traditional colors, instead opting for an all-bronze face. Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_4586869_greek-mythology-shields.html#ixzz2vhEbcDeA very close (left shield?!)> __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

03-12-14, 07:28 AM	#6
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	How can one be an agnostic atheist? Agnostics aren't sure, but atheists are. An atheist usually believes in the lack of a god more than a theist believes in one. Kinda hard to be both. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

03-11-14, 04:54 PM	#2
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	That spot was a bit tougher to defend in 1941 since the sea has retreated from where it was in 480 BC.

03-12-14, 07:52 AM	#8
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	And don't be an agnostic atheist, be a secular humanist. __________________

03-12-14, 08:54 AM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I had a friend who was a dyslexic atheist. He insisted there was no Dog. I limit myself to being an insomniac dyslexic agnostic. I lie awake nights wondering whether there's a Dog or not. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-12-14, 11:46 PM	#14
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	So you're either confused or agnostic.