Putin nominated for Peace Nobel Prize!?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

They just don't fly very far or for very long.

[Skybird]

I heard that German McDonalds plans to give away free peace Nobel prizes next Monday and Tuesday with every order costing more than 6 Euros.

[Biggles]

There's one helluva leap between nomination to that award and actually getting it. Not gonna happen, no-way, no-how. There's always those that deserve it better, even them Norweigans at the helm of that particular prize know this :P

[vienna]

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[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Biggles

There's one helluva leap between nomination to that award and actually getting it. Not gonna happen, no-way, no-how. There's always those that deserve it better, even them Norweigans at the helm of that particular prize know this :P

Considering that the founder of the prize has defined it to be rewarded for already accomplished extraordinary achievements on behalf of military arms reduction - this and nothing else! -, you will not find many winners who deserve it.

Even worse, quite some winners not only deserve not this prize, but also not any other.

In my view, the respectability of the Peace Nobel prize is nill. If I would be given it, I would refuse, but keep the money of course (self-made stupidity should be exploited, I believe), and then maybe file a legal complaint about getting offended by this attempted character assassination. Too many names on that award's list that I do not wish to get mentioned with in one breath.

I think the UN should decide on the the prize. The two would truly deserve each other.

[Admiral Halsey]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Considering that the founder of the prize has defined it to be rewarded for already accomplished extraordinary achievements on behalf of military arms reduction - this and nothing else! -, you will not find many winners who deserve it.

Even worse, quite some winners not only deserve not this prize, but also not any other.

In my view, the respectability of the Peace Nobel prize is nill. If I would be given it, I would refuse, but keep the money of course (self-made stupidity should be exploited, I believe), and then maybe file a legal complaint about getting offended by this attempted character assassination. Too many names on that award's list that I do not wish to get mentioned with in one breath.

I think the UN should decide on the the prize. The two would truly deserve each other.

Plus we should not forget the Alfred Nobel himself invented Dynamite, Gelignite and Ballistite.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Plus we should not forget the Alfred Nobel himself invented Dynamite, Gelignite and Ballistite.

As a matter of fact he was looking for a way to make transport and usage of nitroglycerine - a highly unstable agent that caused many accidents - more safe.

His family however delivered ammunitions to the armed forces.

Alfred Nobel himself was strongly anti-war, and reasoned that a strong and dangerous mega-weapon would intimidate mankind so much that it would stop waging wars (in principle the equivalent to the logic behind MAD during the cold war).

The Nobel prizes he founded short before his death when he had to decide what should be done with his wealth after his death. A foundation should manage his wealth, and the yearly profits should be given to those who won the prize, in several categories that he described.

The problem is that the scientific Nobel prizes get decided on by scientific institutions, but the peace prize gets decided on by a commission controlled by the ordinary political parliament of Norway. Which of course must cause according results.

Bring in politicians, and you're done.

[Platapus]

I don't know why people get spun up over the Nobel Peace Prize. It is a private organization's award. They can give it to anyone they like.

The Nobel Peace Prize has never meant that the recipient is a good person, only that the committee chose them according to the organizations criteria.

Where is it written that anyone else has to agree or even understand what this organization uses for criteria?

Their organization, their rules, their award.

Besides this is just a nomination

[Ducimus]

I think there's a certain assumption that goes with the name of the award.

Nobel peace price

I'll wager most don't even look up the particulars (I know I don't, and could hardly care), and only run with the general assumption that it is a prestigious international recognition for humanitarian work of legendary proportions. When your average joe thinks of the Nobel Peace prize, they think Martin Luther King, or Mother Teresa. Names like Obama are nowhere near this league, so it cheapens the perception of what the award is about. So, Obama, Putin? Sure whatever, why not.

In military terms, it's like getting awarded a purple heart of sitting on your cot with a finger up your nose, when an explosion went off somewhere else on the base, and you just happen to get a tiny sliver of steel stuck in your ass (literally), so the powers that be in charge, decided to give the award even though the recipient was nowhere near any real combat. (I've seen that happen actually)

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I'll wager most don't even look up the particulars (I know I don't, and could hardly care), and only run with the general assumption that it is a prestigious international recognition for humanitarian work of legendary proportions.

It is formulated in his Last Will. The criterion for the peace prize is this line: it should be rewarded

" to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses ."

That'S it.

Protecting the environment? Social justice? Women's rights? Plans and hopes for a peaceful world? Idealistic promises? Socially revolutionary economic changes like micro credit banks (now under heavy fire, btw)? Forming a continental economic union? Fighting poverty? All this the peace nobel prize is NOT for.

[Ducimus]

So basically, what was once a prestigious award, now has no more significance then a bumper sticker.

[Sailor Steve]

But by that standard Putin should win the prize. After all, he is trying to reduce the armies of the Ukraine and Crimea and bring peace to the region.

Again, much as Hitler did.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I don't know why people get spun up over the Nobel Peace Prize. It is a private organization's award. They can give it to anyone they like.

The Nobel Peace Prize has never meant that the recipient is a good person, only that the committee chose them according to the organizations criteria.

Where is it written that anyone else has to agree or even understand what this organization uses for criteria?

Their organization, their rules, their award.

Besides this is just a nomination

No.

Nobel's Last Will.

Nobel's criterions.

Nobel's financial heritage.

Their political hijack. Their fat cat abuse. Their political instrumentalization and ignorance of Nobel's Last Will.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I don't know why people get spun up over the Nobel Peace Prize. It is a private organization's award. They can give it to anyone they like.

The Nobel Peace Prize has never meant that the recipient is a good person, only that the committee chose them according to the organizations criteria.

Where is it written that anyone else has to agree or even understand what this organization uses for criteria?

Their organization, their rules, their award.

Besides this is just a nomination

Conquer the world and there will be peace and harmony.
Any takes ?

[Dan D]

Originally Posted by MH

Conquer the world and there will be peace and harmony.
Any takes ?

Was not the EU awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2012? Take it away, Skybird.