Why Mexicans immigrate to the US

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

That is clearly my face photo shopped onto Tarjak's body.

My legs aren't that short and you know it.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by TarJak

My legs aren't that short and you know it.

I think he was referring to the miniscule appendage actually

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I think he was referring to the miniscule appendage actually

Looks about your size

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Exactly, many are hired because can pay them what are slave wages.Our politicians are in bed with big business and will not pass meaningful reform to drive the illegals out, ....

I would say that driving the illegals out is a poor choice of words. In some ways you have invited them although in a backhanded sort of way. There are low paying jobs for them that many Americans refuse to do, or can't be filled by the local population. If you drive the illegals out who would do these jobs? I do understand that the immigrants are a burden on Government run social programs, but they are also consumers. 11 million people are buying food, gas, clothing etc. They don't pay income tax but somebody benefits from their consumerism. They also work cheap. Again someone benefits. The employer for sure and maybe the customer of the employer. Maybe you.

Those who push to solve the problem, are labeled racist, xenophobic, uncaring etc by a certain party and it's propaganda division, the majority of media outlets, thus changing the discussion from the issue and putting those who want to stop the problem, on the defensive. Ignoring the economic and social damage that years of lax immigration policy has caused and will continue to cause damage until we stop it.

I can see that there is a problem there and I am sympathetic. Unfortunately, some who wish to solve the problem are speaking from purely political or ideological standpoint and some of them are racist, xenophobic and uncaring. They are intentionally muddying the water. Illegal immigration is a huge problem and you have my sympathy.

I am not without sympathy for those seeking a better life here, but it is not our responsibility to take on the downtrodden of the world,

It may not be your responsibility but your country for hundreds of years was known for this....

From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That is/was one of the things I admire the most about your country.

Good to see you haven't given up on your education. The harder you work for it, the more you will value it. Good luck.

[Wolferz]

From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Lady Liberty continues...

Now that you're here, you might as well work these no-wage jobs I have for you. I like making money off the backs of slaves. It helps keep the patina off my dress.

Moths to the flame?

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Lady Liberty continues...

Now that you're here, you might as well work these no-wage jobs I have for you. I like making money off the backs of slaves. It helps keep the patina off my dress.

Moths to the flame?

I would say..hmmm... depends on which side of the river you're on.

[Phyrrus]

Why Mexicans immigrate to the US?
The problem is very complicated, but i like always finding easy solutions, so my answer is:
Because you let them in, simple as that. Put a big machine gun on your southern border and problem solved. (and I think you have a few of those). But would you do that, when half of your economy depends on immigrant workforce? If you do not dare to put that machine gun there, than swallow it and stop moaning.
You make war in Irak, and cant deal with immigration?

This is my answer to all similar questions: Why Europe is full of muslims, why Germany is invaded by turks, why England is not white anymore, why even my county, Romania is full of ethiopians, chinese and all. Some may say that multiculturalism is nice, but take a walk in London or Berlin, and your opinion will certainly change... There are always multiple points of views, and the final result is always who has more power to implement his own point of view. Humanity has nothing to do with it. I may seem to some as a racist, but not.. I am an immigrant myself, i left my country and lived and worked every possible country where payment was higher than in the s***hole I was born in. I did the low wage s*** work that native people wouldnt touch... but still, after eating the emmigrant`s bread myself, I still can not understand WHY do you people in Britain and USA can not take up arms and PROTECT yourselves agains all the crap that invades your countries? Because first you would have to hang all your inbred governors and bankers that get rich on immigrants backs, that`s why.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

You make war in Irak, and cant deal with immigration?

They seem to go hand in hand. It was immigrants, illegal and legal who did a good share of the fighting. 1.2 million Hispanics and Latinos are veterans of the US armed forces. They currently make up about 14% of the US Marine Corps.

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Why Mexicans immigrate to the US?
The problem is very complicated, but i like always finding easy solutions, so my answer is:
Because you let them in, simple as that. Put a big machine gun on your southern border and problem solved. (and I think you have a few of those). But would you do that, when half of your economy depends on immigrant workforce? If you do not dare to put that machine gun there, than swallow it and stop moaning.
You make war in Irak, and cant deal with immigration?

This is my answer to all similar questions: Why Europe is full of muslims, why Germany is invaded by turks, why England is not white anymore, why even my county, Romania is full of ethiopians, chinese and all. Some may say that multiculturalism is nice, but take a walk in London or Berlin, and your opinion will certainly change... There are always multiple points of views, and the final result is always who has more power to implement his own point of view. Humanity has nothing to do with it. I may seem to some as a racist, but not.. I am an immigrant myself, i left my country and lived and worked every possible country where payment was higher than in the s***hole I was born in. I did the low wage s*** work that native people wouldnt touch... but still, after eating the emmigrant`s bread myself, I still can not understand WHY do you people in Britain and USA can not take up arms and PROTECT yourselves agains all the crap that invades your countries? Because first you would have to hang all your inbred governors and bankers that get rich on immigrants backs, that`s why.

That is quite funny, as apparently the "you people in Britain" currently have yourself and the Bulgarians as top of the list on nationalities of "invaders" to be got rid of.

[u crank]

We got a couple of threads going on the immigration problem. This goes a long way in helping to understand some of it.



In the end it's all about that stuff you fold and put in your pocket.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Some may say that multiculturalism is nice, but take a walk in London or Berlin, and your opinion will certainly change...

Never been to Berlin, but I go to London every year and my opinion hasn't changed. It's not whether multiculturalism is nice or nasty, it's a fact of life, London has been a centre of cultures from across the world since the 1700s, it would not be London if it was not multicultural.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Put a big machine gun on your southern border and problem solved.

You do know that border is 1,954 miles (3,145 km) long, and almost all of it barren desert? That's a lot of ground to cover for "a big machine gun".

Originally Posted by Oberon

Never been to Berlin, but I go to London every year and my opinion hasn't changed. It's not whether multiculturalism is nice or nasty, it's a fact of life, London has been a centre of cultures from across the world since the 1700s, it would not be London if it was not multicultural.

Go back another 2 centuries and you get queen Elizabeth complaining that there are too many Blacks in London.
Nothing changes, people still make the same complaints and the same doomsday predictions about the destruction of local culture

[Wolferz]

We all know why our neighbors to the south want to come here. Same as any other immigrant. Looking for a piece of the American dream. Better opportunities, living conditions etcetera, etcetera. They can work a job knowing that a band of banditos isn't going to rob them on the way home from work. I guess they forgot about our own banditos in DC and the state houses who rob you before you even get your check.

One thing's for sure, we're all sleeping. That's the only way to get the American dream. Then you awaken to the nightmare.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

We all know why our neighbors to the south want to come here. Same as any other immigrant. Looking for a piece of the American dream. Better opportunities, living conditions etcetera, etcetera. They can work a job knowing that a band of banditos isn't going to rob them on the way home from work. I guess they forgot about our own banditos in DC and the state houses who rob you before you even get your check.

One thing's for sure, we're all sleeping. That's the only way to get the American dream. Then you awaken to the nightmare.

Good post.