„Votiss.app“:takedown notice to chat app company???

Dan D · 01-17-14, 03:00 AM

I am asking a technical question which may be of general interest because it is about protecting your privacy on the internet.

The scenario: boy has shared nudity video of his ex-girlfirend with his friends by sending it via a well-known chat-app on his mobile phone. The friends shared it with their other friends and so on and now the video file is circulating at all schools in town, which is pretty ugly for the girl.

Apart from making the boy's life miserable, too, what else can you do? What is with the video file?

If you send a so-called „Takedown Notice“ to the chat-app company in California, which it says you should do in the general terms of agreement, What exactely happens on the technical side? Is it like pulling the plug, so to speak?

My understanding as a noob is that the video file is stored on one of the servers of the chat-app company and that when it is taken down, it has the effect that the video no longer can be shared and played unless someone has made a copy on external memory and uploads it somewhere else again?

Is that a correct understanding?

Herr-Berbunch · 01-17-14, 05:54 AM

Don't know for sure, it would seem the obvious way, but . . .

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unless someone has made a copy on external memory and uploads it somewhere else again?

^That is extremely likely.

On the up-side - it's highly unlikely any more girls in that town will repeat getting filmed naked.

As for the boy, he should be stripped and taken to the far side of town and made to walk back home. (And if I was his dad the doors would be locked.)

Tango589 · 01-17-14, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Don't know for sure, it would seem the obvious way, but . . .

^That is extremely likely.

On the up-side - it's highly unlikely any more girls in that town will repeat getting filmed naked.

As for the boy, he should be stripped and taken to the far side of town and made to walk back home. (And if I was his dad the doors would be locked.)

Also, the streets lined with people throwing rotten fruit and veg, pointing and laughing.

Another question: What have you been geting up to Dan D?

Garion · 01-17-14, 09:59 PM

Say it was all Photoshopped and fake.

Cheers
Jev

Buddahaid · 01-17-14, 10:03 PM

People have no class anymore. I can't say I'm sorry to have grown up without these problems of social media.

Admiral Halsey · 01-18-14, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

On the up-side - it's highly unlikely any more girls in that town will repeat getting filmed naked.

you'd think but probably not.

Dan D · 01-18-14, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

On the up-side - it's highly unlikely any more girls in that town will repeat getting filmed naked.

Good point.

I have done some research like here:

Where do pictures and files we send using WhatsApp end up?
Yea, smokers get cancer and non-smokers get ass-cancer.

and I have asked my eldest daughter and her friends who are 13 years old and who use "Votiis.app" every day. They say, that video files get sent the way that incoming files are saved on the hard drive of the mobile phones anyway unless you have change the standard settings. From there I conclude that a take down notice sent to "Votiss. app" could only have a symbolic meaning.

Dan D · 01-23-14, 05:10 PM

Well, it ain't over yet here in my town even though California is far away.
I talked to some local chiefs and I am shocked to hear that about the same thing happened at the same school last year. A girl (15) tried to commit sucide on the school toilet after nude pics of here were passed around to be watched by her class mates via smart phones.

There, the police confiscated all mobile phones of the class.
I like that idea, a short sharp effect for those juveniles.
I want at least the mobile phone/laptop/tablet pc/pc to be confiscated by the police which would mean they bust the household and confiscate all computers and mobile phones that are there to save evidence, which means those of his Mum and Dad, brothers and sisters get confiscated, too.
They will get those computers back, when people are running windows 11 as OS while their returned computer still have win XP.

That will teach 'em a lesson

RickC Sniper · 01-23-14, 10:28 PM

I think confiscating my computer for something my kid or grandkid did would be a bit harsh.......cannot see that happening.

Dan D · 01-24-14, 08:03 PM

I agree, RickC Sniper, that is "harsh". But the Police said, they would do that. I have talked to them, they do short work and pull out the nuke: ""Can't say which computer the boy used, so all computers in the household will be confiscated". The original file was sent via Skype. Skype is said to be "tap-proof", which is why criminals use it and that is why you often find it as an argument in the arrest warrant: "professional criminal uses Skype", the Skype chats get logged and are saved on the hard drive of your computer, unless you have changed the standard settings, and when it is gangs, very often one of them, one who plays a minor role, forgets to do so.

That boy or his parents are not professional criminals, but they still will get hit by the full force of crime investigation, that is what it looks like right now.

01-17-14, 03:00 AM	#1
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	„Votiss.app“:takedown notice to chat app company??? I am asking a technical question which may be of general interest because it is about protecting your privacy on the internet. The scenario: boy has shared nudity video of his ex-girlfirend with his friends by sending it via a well-known chat-app on his mobile phone. The friends shared it with their other friends and so on and now the video file is circulating at all schools in town, which is pretty ugly for the girl. Apart from making the boy's life miserable, too, what else can you do? What is with the video file? If you send a so-called „Takedown Notice“ to the chat-app company in California, which it says you should do in the general terms of agreement, What exactely happens on the technical side? Is it like pulling the plug, so to speak? My understanding as a noob is that the video file is stored on one of the servers of the chat-app company and that when it is taken down, it has the effect that the video no longer can be shared and played unless someone has made a copy on external memory and uploads it somewhere else again? Is that a correct understanding? __________________

01-17-14, 10:03 PM	#5
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	People have no class anymore. I can't say I'm sorry to have grown up without these problems of social media. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

01-23-14, 05:10 PM	#8
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, it ain't over yet here in my town even though California is far away. I talked to some local chiefs and I am shocked to hear that about the same thing happened at the same school last year. A girl (15) tried to commit sucide on the school toilet after nude pics of here were passed around to be watched by her class mates via smart phones. There, the police confiscated all mobile phones of the class. I like that idea, a short sharp effect for those juveniles. I want at least the mobile phone/laptop/tablet pc/pc to be confiscated by the police which would mean they bust the household and confiscate all computers and mobile phones that are there to save evidence, which means those of his Mum and Dad, brothers and sisters get confiscated, too. They will get those computers back, when people are running windows 11 as OS while their returned computer still have win XP. That will teach 'em a lesson __________________

01-23-14, 10:28 PM	#9
RickC Sniper Undetectable Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,221 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	I think confiscating my computer for something my kid or grandkid did would be a bit harsh.......cannot see that happening. __________________ Support Subsim http://www.subsim.com/store.html

01-24-14, 08:03 PM	#10
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I agree, RickC Sniper, that is "harsh". But the Police said, they would do that. I have talked to them, they do short work and pull out the nuke: ""Can't say which computer the boy used, so all computers in the household will be confiscated". The original file was sent via Skype. Skype is said to be "tap-proof", which is why criminals use it and that is why you often find it as an argument in the arrest warrant: "professional criminal uses Skype", the Skype chats get logged and are saved on the hard drive of your computer, unless you have changed the standard settings, and when it is gangs, very often one of them, one who plays a minor role, forgets to do so. That boy or his parents are not professional criminals, but they still will get hit by the full force of crime investigation, that is what it looks like right now. __________________

01-17-14, 09:59 PM	#4
Garion Commander Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 452 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Say it was all Photoshopped and fake. Cheers Jev