no more pullups for female US marines

[kranz]

time for my 2 cents:

women who want to help in the army should be put in paid brothels behind the front line.
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gotcha - I was trolling.
Their services should be free.

[MH]

Originally Posted by kranz

time for my 2 cents:

women who want to help in the army should be put in paid brothels behind the front line.
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gotcha - I was trolling.
Their services should be free.

My guess is you can do three pull ups due to being light weight on nervus system between your ears.

Go take a leak as well....

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by kranz

time for my 2 cents:

women who want to help in the army should be put in paid brothels behind the front line.
.
gotcha - I was trolling.
Their services should be free.

With misogynistic comments like that, it's a wonder why there are not more females on this forum.

Also Sky your statement about women getting colder is not accurate. Women are more sensitive to feeling cold, but actually are better than men at managing and surviving cold, as they tend to have a thicker and more even layer of subcutaneous fat.

Anyhow as for the topic, males and females in the military... Truth be told each sex offers different strengths and weaknesses for military service. Women do not have as much upper body strength, but strength is hardly the determining factor in combat, not in ancient times, and definitely not now. Endurance is more important for hauling gear, which is something most women can do just fine as they do have good lower body strength.

While a woman may not be the most ideal candidate as the squad's support gunner, there are plenty of other roles that they can match males in, or even exceed. For example, physically women are far better suited as fighter pilots than males, they are smaller in size, have less mass, and as a result can tolerate g forces much better. Women also tend to have better manual dexterity and are more agile. Which again makes the good candidates for piloting, or crewing tanks, or sniping, recon, etc.. So perhaps we should raise the bar in those areas.

Some of these physical tests are just arbitrary tests. The real question is who is most best suited for each job.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

With misogynistic comments like that, it's a wonder why there are not more females on this forum.

Also Sky your statement about women getting colder is not accurate. Women are more sensitive to feeling cold, but actually are better than men at managing and surviving cold, as they tend to have a thicker and more even layer of subcutaneous fat.

You fall for an old myth, that the isolation effect of body fat is what decides this, but we know that this assumption is wrong. We are no seals in cold water. Decisive for human body' thermo-homeostasis is the production of warmth inside the body, and this is not produced by fat, but by muscles and metabolic activity. Since the male body has more muscle mass than the female body, it produces more warmth, and thus the body is better heated.

On average, the male body contains 40% muscles and 15% fat, the female body contains 25% muscles and 25% fat. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Skybird

You fall for an old myth, that the isolation effect of body fat is what decides this, but we know that this assumption is wrong. We are no seals in cold water. Decisive for human body' thermo-homeostasis is the production of warmth inside the body, and this is not produced by fat, but by muscles and metabolic activity. Since the male body has more muscle mass than the female body, it produces more warmth, and thus the body is better heated.

On average, the male body contains 40% muscles and 15% fat, the female body contains 25% muscles and 25% fat. Go figure.

That is correct.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by August

Bet she could still kick your Civil Air Patrol butt.

I've met 14 year old Staff Sargeants with better war faces.

EDIT: To be honest, she probably would because I won't fight a woman.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I've met 14 year old Staff Sargeants with better war faces.

EDIT: To be honest, she probably would because I won't fight a woman.

Pretty sure that is just lousy selfy not a "war face" which is nothing but a bunch of hoopla anyway.

Lousy excuse by the way.some of the best fights I ever witnessed where woman vs. a man.In one the man hit first and the woman who was much stronger picked him up
threw him into the ceiling then slammed him into the floor that was it man was down for the count in about 10 seconds.

Saw another one in high school two girls that was the most brutal fight I have ever seen and they knocked out two guys that tried to break it up.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Pretty sure that is just lousy selfy not a "war face" which is nothing but a bunch of hoopla anyway.

Yes I know....

Lousy excuse by the way.some of the best fights I ever witnessed where woman vs. a man.In one the man hit first and the woman who was much stronger picked him up
threw him into the ceiling then slammed him into the floor that was it man was down for the count in about 10 seconds.

Well I'm sorry that respect for women is a "lousy excuse"

Saw another one in high school two girls that was the most brutal fight I have ever seen and they knocked out two guys that tried to break it up.

I've seen some on various shows and heard tons of stories from tons of people.

Fights are fights is how I see it. Most of them start over something that could've been easily solved.

One of my favorite quotes "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far"

My interpretation is that I will only fight when I have to. I've never been in a major fight but I've had a share of the scuffles.

Never found a reason to all-out fight. Because most of my problems so far can/were solved by other means.

[Skybird]

I looked it up even more, and learned this:

The male outer skin is 15-20% thicker than female outer skin. In case of physical cold cinditon meeting the body barrier, bloodciruclation in the skin'S upper layer gets reduced, which is easier to accompli8sh in thin skin than in thicker skin. Woemn'S skin thus becomes up to three degrees colder than a male'S skin int he same situation. So not only produces the femal ebody less inner wamrth, but the sensoric perception of cold is not just imgaination, but bases on a physical reality - in the skin's sensor feedback.

Add this to the overestimation of isolation effects of suvcutaneous fat. The problem with that argument was that most of women'S higher share of fat is concentrated not in subcutaneous fat layers, but in certain body "hotspots", usually those areas that males admire so much. I read that today, the minor isolation gains of subcutaneous fat gets neutralised even more due to Western beauty ideals that prefers a slim figure.

So: women produce less warmth, feel cool outside temperates more intense because their skin in fact IS colder, and the subcutaneous fat layers do not compensate for these negative warmth effect.

Finally, blood pressure. The average blood pressure in the female body is lower than in the male body.

Originally Posted by kranz

time for my 2 cents:

women who want to help in the army should be put in paid brothels behind the front line.
.
.
.
.
gotcha - I was trolling.
Their services should be free.

Best of 2014 anyone?
Hilarious!

[Red October1984]

Next-Gen US Marines

[August]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Next-Gen US Marines

Bet she could still kick your Civil Air Patrol butt.