no more pullups for female US marines

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I've met 14 year old Staff Sargeants with better war faces.

EDIT: To be honest, she probably would because I won't fight a woman.

Pretty sure that is just lousy selfy not a "war face" which is nothing but a bunch of hoopla anyway.

Lousy excuse by the way.some of the best fights I ever witnessed where woman vs. a man.In one the man hit first and the woman who was much stronger picked him up
threw him into the ceiling then slammed him into the floor that was it man was down for the count in about 10 seconds.

Saw another one in high school two girls that was the most brutal fight I have ever seen and they knocked out two guys that tried to break it up.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Pretty sure that is just lousy selfy not a "war face" which is nothing but a bunch of hoopla anyway.

Yes I know....

Lousy excuse by the way.some of the best fights I ever witnessed where woman vs. a man.In one the man hit first and the woman who was much stronger picked him up
threw him into the ceiling then slammed him into the floor that was it man was down for the count in about 10 seconds.

Well I'm sorry that respect for women is a "lousy excuse"

Saw another one in high school two girls that was the most brutal fight I have ever seen and they knocked out two guys that tried to break it up.

I've seen some on various shows and heard tons of stories from tons of people.

Fights are fights is how I see it. Most of them start over something that could've been easily solved.

One of my favorite quotes "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far"

My interpretation is that I will only fight when I have to. I've never been in a major fight but I've had a share of the scuffles.

Never found a reason to all-out fight. Because most of my problems so far can/were solved by other means.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Well I'm sorry that respect for women is a "lousy excuse"


My interpretation is that I will only fight when I have to. I've never been in a major fight but I've had a share of the scuffles.

Never found a reason to all-out fight. Because most of my problems so far can/were solved by other means.

Just because a person has respect for women is irrelevant.I find it very hard to believe that any person if placed in a defensive situation where a female where attacking them would just do nothing because they "respect women".

I split fighting or brawling and self defense in two separate categories.A fight is an activity where all parties involved got into a physical altercation for a foolish reason.

Self defense is another ball game and one could meet one of the meaning of fight by using their hands and feet to defend themselves from another attacker.In such a situation to say that one would not fight a woman is pretty silly and would only get you robbed or hurt or what ever else the female attackers intent was.

Most people have not actually been in any serious fights either so thus far you are not an exception.People who find the need to fight often usually also often find the need to post bail.

Of course keep in mind that the rate of females being the assailant in violet crimes has sharply risen over the past decade so never assume just because someone is a woman that she is not dangerous.

Personally I will respect anyone so long as their actions warrant respect.

[soopaman2]

If I was in combat, I would want someone who could drag a body away. (alive or dead)


I do not approve of women in mixed combat with men.

I know I am opening myself up to a flame, or may even be considered a troll.

Save your feminism, the I am woman hear me roar crap, women are physically inferior to men, and will always hold the whole mixed unit back.

Unless they are all built like Amazonians, or can pass physical requirements, leave them in the rear.

Political correctness, at the cost of combat efficiency. God Bless America.



edit: Before this supposed change, women already had vastly diminished physical fitness requirements.


Sorry, war is a mans game, get over it, or conform. (beef up, and pass a uniform physical fitness requirement)

I do not want my life in the hands of a 130 pound frau, who can barely carry her pack, who would?

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

If I was in combat, I would want someone who could drag a body away. (alive or dead)

I would want anyone who can maintain self control well enough to return fire.

Truth be told the ability to drag away a dead body is useless in direct combat why waste combat capacity to move a dead body?

In combat the first priority is to gain or maintain fire superiority harsh as this sounds that means that a wounded person is just going to have to wait until their comrades gain enough control of the situation such that it is possible to reach the injured person without risking further casualties.

As I said before the Viet Cong had many female combatants the VC was also expert at fading away and often leaving few bodies behind must have been the males doing all the work.What it really was is they lacked our silly beliefs.

Tome it has nothing to do with political correctness if a person can perform the tasks there should be noting baring them.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I would want anyone who can maintain self control well enough to return fire.

Truth be told the ability to drag away a dead body is useless in direct combat why waste combat capacity to move a dead body?

In combat the first priority is to gain or maintain fire superiority harsh as this sounds that means that a wounded person is just going to have to wait until their comrades gain enough control of the situation such that it is possible to reach the injured person without risking further casualties.

As I said before the Viet Cong had many female combatants the VC was also expert at fading away and often leaving few bodies behind must have been the males doing all the work.What it really was is they lacked our silly beliefs.

Tome it has nothing to do with political correctness if a person can perform the tasks there should be noting baring them.

I truly mean nothing mean or mysogynistic, I simply believe minimal physical requirements are in place for a reason, and if little Miss, can barely hump her pack, how much will that slow down the unit?

I am sorry, pass the phsyical requirements men do, or drive a water truck.
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edit: I like girls in combat, they can play too. In Israel, they let them man (or women) tanks. I am down with that..

On foot, mixed infantry, I got a problem with.

[August]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I truly mean nothing mean or mysogynistic, I simply believe minimal physical requirements are in place for a reason, and if little Miss, can barely hump her pack, how much will that slow down the unit?

This ^

I just can't see many women being able to hump the loads these guys do on a regular basis.

[nikimcbee]

Well that's good to hear. About time.

[August]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

harsh as this sounds that means that a wounded person is just going to have to wait until their comrades gain enough control of the situation such that it is possible to reach the injured person without risking further casualties.

Fire superiority is not something permanent like a finish line once crossed ends the contest. Covering fire may only be effective for a few minutes. Do you seriously expect a wounded soldiers comrades to wait until the battle is over before attempting a rescue?

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Just because a person has respect for women is irrelevant.I find it very hard to believe that any person if placed in a defensive situation where a female where attacking them would just do nothing because they "respect women".

I split fighting or brawling and self defense in two separate categories.A fight is an activity where all parties involved got into a physical altercation for a foolish reason.

Self defense is another ball game and one could meet one of the meaning of fight by using their hands and feet to defend themselves from another attacker.In such a situation to say that one would not fight a woman is pretty silly and would only get you robbed or hurt or what ever else the female attackers intent was.

Most people have not actually been in any serious fights either so thus far you are not an exception.People who find the need to fight often usually also often find the need to post bail.

Of course keep in mind that the rate of females being the assailant in violet crimes has sharply risen over the past decade so never assume just because someone is a woman that she is not dangerous.

Personally I will respect anyone so long as their actions warrant respect.

Self Defense...I can see where that situation could present itself.

I just don't like the idea of hitting women. Something I've never liked and something I won't ever get used to.

If and when a self defense situation presents itself, you better believe I'll self defend...doesn't always mean I have to like it I guess. It's moral decision or death in some cases.

However, I really wonder how many street thieves have the guts to actually kill somebody. I don't think that some person asking for my wallet would really actually stab me with that knife.

Depends on the situation I guess.