Viral Photo from Connecticut - "Looks like Weimar Germany"

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by August

No. Where did you get that idea?

Numerous news sources here in Australia have reported that, and I once saw several interviews with NRA members who supported background checks.

It just occurred to me that background checks and registration are probably two different things, and that I'm an idiot.

[d@rk51d3]

Geeze, even us firearms owners in Australia don't support registration.

All it's done is supply a shopping list to criminal organisations.

[Admiral Halsey]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

Geeze, even us firearms owners in Australia don't support registration..

Not wanting to sound stupid but I need to ask this. With those laws of yours I thought owning a gun was all but outlawed in Australia?

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by gi_dan2987

I'm one of them! I have over $15,000 invested in guns, ammo, reloading equipment, raw lead, ready to lube bullets, and accessories. It will be a cold day in hades when I give that up! That's my WHOLE life savings in there!

I got out of the NRA when I started to realize that they were taking back door deals to keep their mouths shut about the new unconstitutional laws regarding our 2nd amendment. We pay them to NOT keep their mouths shut about issues like this!

I'm not giving up my guns, and I'm not signing up for obamacare. Take my money, shoot me, arrest me, do your worst. I'm sick and tired of everybody living in fear, and I'm not taking it anymore!

Everywhere I look I see a castrated society that mopes around with their tails between their legs. Does it even mean anything to be American anymore?

Here's a guy who has his priorities straight.

Especially the part highlighted in red.

EDIT: NSA Watchlist...ACTIVATED.

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Numerous news sources here in Australia have reported that, and I once saw several interviews with NRA members who supported background checks.

It just occurred to me that background checks and registration are probably two different things, and that I'm an idiot.

Yes, maybe you just interpreted things wrong. I've done that more than a few times. No worries. I forgive you...but as far as gun legislation goes...Less Is More.

[gi_dan2987]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Here's a guy who has his priorities straight.
EDIT: NSA Watchlist...ACTIVATED.

I was on the NSA watchlist as soon as I got home from Iraq in 2007. All returning veterans have been declared domestic terrorists didn't you know?

If they want me, they know where to find me. Prison? Great! I live in a dilapidated 1970's era apartment that has mildew growing in the windowsills and mold in the hallways.

I'm unemployed, and nobody will hire me because of my broken work history due to continuous deployments for training, combat, etc.

I live on $500 a month of VA disability income with my fiance and I couldn't be happier!

My Guns ARE MY ONLY ESTATE! THEY ARE MY ENTIRE NET WORTH!

I'm confined to this stuffy little 800 Square foot ground-floor bunker they call an apartment, tell me about Prison again?

I hardly have enough money to get myself a beer at the end of the month much less pay my bills. This forum IS my life, and that's sad! But I've adapted and so it's all good.

I could care less about being shot. I've had plenty of rounds snap the air past my skull to really come to terms with it.

Where are the REAL men!? It's OUR responsibility to have the GIGANTIC BRASS BALLS that are required to protect our women and children!

So to NSA: I hope you're watching me! Take a picture so you will know the face behind the nightmares that you will have at night. You can't kill all of us! BRING IT ON!

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by gi_dan2987

This forum IS my life, and that's sad!

Gee, we feel so loved right now.

[gi_dan2987]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

Gee, we feel so loved right now.

You are loved.

But yes, besides taking care of the cats, the house, and my lady, this is about it!

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Not wanting to sound stupid but I need to ask this. With those laws of yours I thought owning a gun was all but outlawed in Australia?

Gun laws are certainly stricter than before the Port Arthur massacre, but we can still own guns.

[d@rk51d3]

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Not wanting to sound stupid but I need to ask this. With those laws of yours I thought owning a gun was all but outlawed in Australia?

No, just alot cash, alot of hoops to jump through, and alot of lube.

First you need to apply with the states Police Department. They do a background check, and if you don't have a violent history, you then get approval for a firearms training/safety course.

This sets you back several hundred dollars, depending on the category of firearms and licence you require. You study the various acts and legislations, safety, ethical hunting, followed by a mutiple choice examination.
Then comes a hands on with a bolt action .22lr and a O/U 12g. 10 rounds of each supplied, and a minimum score on paper and steels is required for a pass.

Once tests are completed and passed, the results are sent back to the police, who will then (at their leisure, up to several months later) send you the appropriate paperwork to aquire your Photo ID firearms licence.

This then sets you back several hundred dollars more, for up to five years, which will then need to be renewed with.............. you guessed it, more cash.

You'll spend about 1K all up to get started, and more if you then become a range member.

Then to purchase a firearm, you need to fill out a "permission to aquire" form, again at cost. The police will then sit on your application for 1 month before approving.

Once your firearm is purchased,you then need to take it to the nearest police station, and register it..........more cash.

You now wait for the knock on the door to have everything inspected, at the discretion of the police (could be several times a year..... could be never).......... and to the interpretation of the law held by whatever inspecting officer you manage to draw from the hat.

Most people aquire a "class a&b" licence.
Myself, I managed a class c.......... again with more cash required.

Class A

• Air rifles, air guns and paint-ball firearms;
• .22 calibre rim-fire rifles (not being self-loading rifles);
• Single or double barrel shotguns (not being self-loading or pump action shotguns).
• receivers of these firearms

Class B

• Muzzle loading firearms (not being handguns);
• Revolving chamber rifles;
• Centre-fire rifles (not being self-loading rifles);
• Break action combination shotguns and rifles;
• Double barrel centre-fire rifles that are not designed to hold additional Rounds in a magazine, and
• All other firearms (not being prescribed firearms, handguns, self-loading Firearms or pump action shotguns) that are not class A firearms.
• receivers of these firearms.

Class C

• Self-loading rim-fire rifles having a magazine capacity of 10 rounds or less;
• Self-loading shotguns having a magazine capacity of 5 rounds or less;
• Pump action shotguns having a magazine capacity of 5 rounds or less.
• receivers of these firearms (does not include revolving chamber rifles)

Class D

• Self-loading rim-fire rifles having a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds;
• Self-loading centre-fire rifles;
• Self-loading shotguns having a magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds;
• Pump action shotguns having a magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
• receivers of these firearms (does not include revolving chamber rifles)

Class H

• Handguns.

You also need to nominate how your licence will be used:
use as a member of a recognised firearms club - 1; (you must then compete in a minimum nuber of scored shoots per year, by law
target shooting - 2; (but not a match at a club)
hunting - 3;
paint-ball shooting - 4;
use in relation to carrying on the business of primary production or in the course of employment by a person who carries on such a business - 5
use in the course of carrying on the business of guarding property or use in guarding property in the course of employment by a person who carries on that business - 6
such other purpose as is approved by the Registrar - 7

So, not impossible, but to do it legally it requires work. You then paint yourself as a target for:

a) the police, as you're now an easy target, and makes them look like they're beating crime. (ooooh, look. a loose rimfire round up on the shelf. You've just lost the lot.)

b) the criminal element who have access to the datatbases containing your name, address, and what you have in the safe. (you get broken into, your stolen firearms get used in a crime. YOU bear the brunt of the law, while the crim is back out on the street, because his mommy didn't buy him that dolly when he was little)


Easier to grab one from the back of the van, down at the wharf on a Saturday night. No questions asked.

[gi_dan2987]

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

Easier to grab one from the back of the van, down at the wharf on a Saturday night. No questions asked.

And that's all the reason why registration doesn't work. It pushes people into criminality to get what they want.

[August]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Numerous news sources here in Australia have reported that, and I once saw several interviews with NRA members who supported background checks.

It just occurred to me that background checks and registration are probably two different things, and that I'm an idiot.

They are two different things but you're certainly not an idiot. Just another victim of deliberate media obfuscation i'll bet.