Nelson Mandela dead at 95

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Which was, as far as you mean slavery, a side-effect, and probably not really the intention, some letter quotes from Lincoln leave little doubt that the slaves was not that much a point of interest for him. The real intention was that Northern states wanted to socialize the debts they had accumulat, and demanded the southern states to pay for them. Which the South obviously did not like that much, and why should they - at that time it was no one-national union with a centralised one-governmet-fits-all. Why should the one who managed economy better, pay for the debts resulting from the other who wasted more than he could afford? there is a reason why the Southern economy and finance system was annihilated so mercilessly by the North. It was to destroy any possible basis for autonomy and to make sure the South could never afford to live independant from the North again.

This leaves me with a couple of problems.

Problem 1: I can show equal documentation which would prove that nothing in the above post is true, but I can't do it here. Which leads to...

Problem 2: I realize that Soopaman2 referred to the American Civil War first, but his post was about collateral damage. Yours was about causes which, as I have pointed out many times before, are a major side-tracking of the thread. This is especially true for me, because I want to have that discussion but can't and won't do it here. If you want to continue it please start a new thread, or go back to one of the several Civil War threads. If not, I'll drop it after this.