Be aware of Obamacare

Armistead · 12-03-13, 12:17 PM

I went through some of it when my mother died. I guess it was easier because I knew she was dying regardless.

Hard for my wife, the day before her mother went in they decorated her house for xmas and went shopping. However, I know she'll cherish that last day in the future.

AVGWarhawk · 12-03-13, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I went through some of it when my mother died. I guess it was easier because I knew she was dying regardless.

Hard for my wife, the day before her mother went in they decorated her house for xmas and went shopping. However, I know she'll cherish that last day in the future.

It is a bit easier when you are given time to prepare. As in my mother-in-laws case. My father-in-law was diagnosed with liver cancer. He refused chemo. Passed three months after the diagnosis. I found my mother dead on her kitchen floor. It was 2 years ago this past November. Many unanswered questions there. Every doctor visit showed a clean bill of health. We are not infallible machines. My dad was a doctor. He always said, "If we know how easy it is to kill ourselves we would not live the way we do." He said this after pulling on his cigarette and drinking his scotch. Man do I miss my pop! I think each of us is faced with an event like this in our lives. My wife and I have seen our parents off to a better place. Give my best to your wife.

Armistead · 12-03-13, 12:33 PM

Yep, my dad won't be around much longer, numerous issues and bad COPD. He still smokes two packs a day, while on oxygen. Doctors told us to leave him alone about it, not gonna quit and too late anyway.

AVGWarhawk · 12-03-13, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Yep, my dad won't be around much longer, numerous issues and bad COPD. He still smokes two packs a day, while on oxygen. Doctors told us to leave him alone about it, not gonna quit and too late anyway.

Same thing my pop said with smoking. Why bother? At 74, a pharmacy of pills to keep his heart going what is the difference. His quality of life was fine. Traveled the world with my mom. Literally traveled the world!

Wolferz · 12-03-13, 01:33 PM

Saddened to hear of your troubles Armistead but, not unexpected with the new healthcare reforms. The reforms were not made in anyone's best interest other than the money grubbing insurance companies.

We all know that we are scheduled to expire at some point and now the government has decided to hasten the date in the interest of the all mighty dollar. It may turn out to rival the holocaust. At least it sure seems to be the plan to cast off what they consider the unproductive refuse of our society.
Those of us who aren't rich enough to pay our medical bills are destined for boot hill, sooner than later. I get closer to it with each passing minute due to suffering a massive stroke back in November of 2000. At that time, our local hospital tried to transfer me to another facility that refused to treat me and would not accept the transfer. I spent three days in ICU where I was left to flounder with port side limbs that didn't function properly anymore. I had trouble feeding myself and they did not care. Just as well, the food sucked anyway.

I have checked the ACA insurance marketplace to get this mandatory health insurance for milady and found out that the least expensive policy is $175.00 a month for suck arse benefits. Couple that cost with the high prices of everything and you end up juggling your bills and making a decision between food or electricity or medicine.
It sure seems like the government wants to kill us all.

Armistead · 12-03-13, 01:45 PM

Wolferz, one our our kennel workers has health problems and obvious we don't pay much, not in this county. We figured she'd be better off to quit working all together, get medicare, welfare, food stamps, etc...Fact is she needs health insurance and even if she had a job with cheap insurance, she couldn't afford the deductible,.....so she's gonna live fully off the government and try to find some part time work under the table....She already got a nice apt in one of the govt funded programs.....

Aktungbby · 12-03-13, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

It sure seems like the government wants to kill us all.

That is its primary function. All conflict derives from have-nots coveting the haves. Any ruler or governing body historically, will insure it's own existence at the expense of the governee, the more so when no longer offering anything of value either from internal decay- moral or infrastructure- or simply inevitable devaluation of the paper-based medium of exchange...inflation of the buck( Im Gott we trust?). Soak yer hands in ice water daily so they're used to it when they pry your gun from 'em too, as a final measure of futile suzerainty when the myth of your inalienable rights becomes fully manifest...and the universal medium of exchange...no doubt covered under ObamaCare, will be tubes of ASTROGLIDE

the nether regions once again!

Bubblehead1980 · 12-03-13, 03:10 PM

Sorry to hear this Armistead. Although, are we sure this was caused by obamacare, that they didn't give her the meds? or just negligence by the staff? That, sadly does happen.

Cybermat47 · 12-04-13, 12:16 AM

Sorry to hear of your mother-in-law's condition Armistead.

CaptainMattJ. · 12-03-13, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Saddened to hear of your troubles Armistead but, not unexpected with the new healthcare reforms. The reforms were not made in anyone's best interest other than the money grubbing insurance companies.

We all know that we are scheduled to expire at some point and now the government has decided to hasten the date in the interest of the all mighty dollar. It may turn out to rival the holocaust. At least it sure seems to be the plan to cast off what they consider the unproductive refuse of our society.
Those of us who aren't rich enough to pay our medical bills are destined for boot hill, sooner than later. I get closer to it with each passing minute due to suffering a massive stroke back in November of 2000. At that time, our local hospital tried to transfer me to another facility that refused to treat me and would not accept the transfer. I spent three days in ICU where I was left to flounder with port side limbs that didn't function properly anymore. I had trouble feeding myself and they did not care. Just as well, the food sucked anyway.

I have checked the ACA insurance marketplace to get this mandatory health insurance for milady and found out that the least expensive policy is $175.00 a month for suck arse benefits. Couple that cost with the high prices of everything and you end up juggling your bills and making a decision between food or electricity or medicine.
It sure seems like the government wants to kill us all.

Precisely why we needed healthcare reform in the first place. What kind of garbage system does that to the sick and helpless?

I dont know what you expected for 175 bucks a month. For health insurance, that's a pittance. Insurance companies have, are, and always will find every way they can to screw you. This isnt news. This wasnt brought about suddenly. The difference is that now they cant offer 100 dollar plans with virtually no coverage at all and get away with it. And since they cant get away with it, they just dumped the loss of those lost extorted profits onto everybody else.

Wolferz · 12-03-13, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

Precisely why we needed healthcare reform in the first place. What kind of garbage system does that to the sick and helpless?

I dont know what you expected for 175 bucks a month. For health insurance, that's a pittance. Insurance companies have, are, and always will find every way they can to screw you. This isnt news. This wasnt brought about suddenly. The difference is that now they cant offer 100 dollar plans with virtually no coverage at all and get away with it. And since they cant get away with it, they just dumped the loss of those lost extorted profits onto everybody else.

One would think that the primary goal of the ACA should actually be Affordable Care for everyone. It doesn't come close in any way, shape or form. It's just another government induced financial responsibility law, similar to auto insurance. Those on the government forced retirement, aka, Social Security will be hard pressed to budget for an additional monthly bill to buy a health policy that doesn't cover the exorbitant costs of modern health care. Only to be left with a high co-pay for any treatment received. Next stop is bill collector harassment.
Just what sick people need.
Since all people are being forced to purchase this crap, wouldn't it be better to just create a super group coverage policy? Then we all win to a degree.

That might even eliminate the need for government subsidy of premiums for the lower income brackets.
Bottom line is... only the insurance providers will come out smelling like roses and we all get sheep dipped.

12-03-13, 12:17 PM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I went through some of it when my mother died. I guess it was easier because I knew she was dying regardless. Hard for my wife, the day before her mother went in they decorated her house for xmas and went shopping. However, I know she'll cherish that last day in the future. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

12-03-13, 12:33 PM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Yep, my dad won't be around much longer, numerous issues and bad COPD. He still smokes two packs a day, while on oxygen. Doctors told us to leave him alone about it, not gonna quit and too late anyway. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

12-03-13, 01:33 PM	#5
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Saddened to hear of your troubles Armistead but, not unexpected with the new healthcare reforms. The reforms were not made in anyone's best interest other than the money grubbing insurance companies. We all know that we are scheduled to expire at some point and now the government has decided to hasten the date in the interest of the all mighty dollar. It may turn out to rival the holocaust. At least it sure seems to be the plan to cast off what they consider the unproductive refuse of our society. Those of us who aren't rich enough to pay our medical bills are destined for boot hill, sooner than later. I get closer to it with each passing minute due to suffering a massive stroke back in November of 2000. At that time, our local hospital tried to transfer me to another facility that refused to treat me and would not accept the transfer. I spent three days in ICU where I was left to flounder with port side limbs that didn't function properly anymore. I had trouble feeding myself and they did not care. Just as well, the food sucked anyway. I have checked the ACA insurance marketplace to get this mandatory health insurance for milady and found out that the least expensive policy is $175.00 a month for suck arse benefits. Couple that cost with the high prices of everything and you end up juggling your bills and making a decision between food or electricity or medicine. It sure seems like the government wants to kill us all. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

12-03-13, 01:45 PM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Wolferz, one our our kennel workers has health problems and obvious we don't pay much, not in this county. We figured she'd be better off to quit working all together, get medicare, welfare, food stamps, etc...Fact is she needs health insurance and even if she had a job with cheap insurance, she couldn't afford the deductible,.....so she's gonna live fully off the government and try to find some part time work under the table....She already got a nice apt in one of the govt funded programs..... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

12-04-13, 12:16 AM	#9
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Sorry to hear of your mother-in-law's condition Armistead. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

12-03-13, 03:10 PM	#8
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,138 Downloads: 607 Uploads: 44	Sorry to hear this Armistead. Although, are we sure this was caused by obamacare, that they didn't give her the meds? or just negligence by the staff? That, sadly does happen.