The Coup D'etat of November 1963 - Page 15

Armistead · 11-27-13, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

Would you care to place a bet?

I have a Hatsan 125 Sniper in .25 cal useing the Nitro Piston.
I could probably shoot farther if I had a .22 version but then the wind has more effect on the lighter round.

My .22 cal Air Rifle does great to about 50 yards. But it's full Auto so intended to mow down anything in that range.
It is quite accurate also.

Oh, it's possible, have a friend with a converted .22 shooting ...seems over 1500 psi. Still, he can walk the target and get some hits, but never a tight grouping. You need some perfect weather.....

11-27-13, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

the most probable source of the head shot is the rear left seat of the Secret Service chase car.

Occam's Razor
"the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected"

mapuc · 11-27-13, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

JFK died.

Did he? jokes aside

What do we really know about his dead?

You right the only things we know for sure is that he died.(or did he?)

Markus

Jimbuna · 11-27-13, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Did he? jokes aside

What do we really know about his dead?

You right the only things we know for sure is that he died.(or did he?)

Markus

Well that is probably the only theory that hasn't been aired yet.

Dread Knot · 11-27-13, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

You right the only things we know for sure is that he died.(or did he?)

According to this widely respected newspaper he was still alive 21 years ago.

Seriously what can one say? Presidents die. Conspiracy Theories live forever.

11-27-13, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Oh, it's possible, have a friend with a converted .22 shooting ...seems over 1500 psi. Still, he can walk the target and get some hits, but never a tight grouping. You need some perfect weather.....

I only fire the .25 Sniper on as windless of a day as possible.
That's why it takes 2 shots to trash the bottle at 100 yards.
The first shot, I watch the pellet and can see it's arc.
(You can see this with powder burners as a sort of vapor trail also)

I hit quarter size groups all day long at 100 yards with the Hatsan.
That's knowing I'm lobbing at nearly 2.93 feet high to allow for pellet drop.
I know the weight of the pellet and do the math in my head to adjust for windage.
(You get a knack for that as I'm sure you know so it's more how far to aim into the cross wind feel)

mapuc · 11-27-13, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Well that is probably the only theory that hasn't been aired yet.

It has. Has however only read this in a book.

Been awhile, since I read this book.(the book was about the most weird conspiracy)

The Secret Service got information, about a threat on the Presidents life, instead of cancel the tour, they manage to get a stand-in.

When this stand-in got killed, they had to hide the real JFK

Markus

Jimbuna · 11-27-13, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

It has. Has however only read this in a book.

Been awhile, since I read this book.(the book was about the most weird conspiracy)

The Secret Service got information, about a threat on the Presidents life, instead of cancel the tour, they manage to get a stand-in.

When this stand-in got killed, they had to hide the real JFK

Markus

I meant on this thread...I should have made myself more clear.

11-27-13, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot

According to this widely respected newspaper he was still alive 21 years ago.

He's was still alive less then a year ago.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age2141164/pg1

(And a Monkey just flew out of my butt!)

Oberon · 11-27-13, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Did he? jokes aside

What do we really know about his dead?

Well, he could be running that I guess.

Armistead · 11-27-13, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I only fire the .25 Sniper on as windless of a day as possible.
That's why it takes 2 shots to trash the bottle at 100 yards.
The first shot, I watch the pellet and can see it's arc.
(You can see this with powder burners as a sort of vapor trail also)

I hit quarter size groups all day long at 100 yards with the Hatsan.
That's knowing I'm lobbing at nearly 2.93 feet high to allow for pellet drop.
I know the weight of the pellet and do the math in my head to adjust for windage.
(You get a knack for that as I'm sure you know so it's more how far to aim into the cross wind feel)

Well, I miss shooting, but nerve disease gives me a mild tremor in my hands, so just do it now for fun when I can....

11-27-13, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Well, I miss shooting, but nerve disease gives me a mild tremor in my hands, so just do it now for fun when I can....

Sorry to hear about the tremor, Mate.
I enjoy the Air Guns as they are short range but require even more attention to the details to go longer ranges.
Most will tell you the 125 .25 Sniper is good for 30 to 40+ yards to be effective as a small critter killer with a high impact.
For the most part that is true.
I just happen to like shooting it at it's max range for a small critter kill shot.
If I can keep it to quarter size? that's good enuff to take a shot for me.

On the Air Gun, I use a bench rest I built so pretty much I hardly touch the Weapon itself.

And I see what your doing here!
You joined with that Criminal Tarjak and are de-railing a perfectly de-railed thread!!
You Bastids!!

Father Goose · 11-27-13, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Read Mortal Error for a debunking of most of this opinion.

And I agree. If you look at the ballistics then the most probable source of the head shot is the rear left seat of the Secret Service chase car.

I'm not going to buy a book about a preposterious theory that a secret service agent accidentally shot the president in the head. Seriously? Really?

I believe my opinion is based on common sense and appears to be supported by Armistead who has made some excellent points and who obviously knows what he is talking about.

mapuc · 11-27-13, 03:55 PM

The Witness

Some ran up the hills, some ran toward the building where Lee was

Why?

Could it have something to do with echoes?
(an untrained ear can't say exactly from where a shot is from)
I'm talking about a shot in a street were there's skyscrapers nearby
(I know much about this, but only in Swedish and the google translate is no good)

Markus

TarJak · 11-27-13, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Father Goose

I'm not going to buy a book about a preposterious theory that a secret service agent accidentally shot the president in the head. Seriously? Really?

I believe my opinion is based on common sense and appears to be supported by Armistead who has made some excellent points and who obviously knows what he is talking about.

Fine, believe what you want. If you don't want to spend any money you can get the gist by clicking on the link in this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2142418

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,563 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	The Witness Some ran up the hills, some ran toward the building where Lee was Why? Could it have something to do with echoes? (an untrained ear can't say exactly from where a shot is from) I'm talking about a shot in a street were there's skyscrapers nearby (I know much about this, but only in Swedish and the google translate is no good) Markus