Jumping in to SH4

Red October1984 · 10-22-13, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jscharpf

Does SH4 have a radio that I can add songs to like SH3 does?

Yes.

There's a whole lot of historical music in the Downloads section too! As Steve said, there's both a radio and gramophone

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Originally Posted by jscharpf

Thanks Red October!!

That's a lot of good information!

Is it safe to assume the mentioned mods are all compatible?

With the v1.5 patch, you should be good. But be sure to install them in the correct order. At this point, you have to choose whether you want to play U-boats or Fleet Boats because Op Monsun won't run alongside TMO or RFB or any other Fleet Boat mod.

I'd do some more research before you pick a mod instead of going off of what I've said. I know TMO hasn't been updated because the author doesn't mod anymore...but i'm not sure about the others. They could've been updated since I was last poking around here.

My personal advice to you is to never play a stock SH game.

Always mod up. It's your decision...but SH4 stock....it's just...meh...

TMO+RSRD Campaign and Traveller's Mod pack is my basic setup with some minor tweaks. I love it.

If you haven't already, check out my AAR (After Action Report) I'm doing over SH4. There's a link in my sig and it's in this sub-forum.

jscharpf · 10-23-13, 07:41 PM

I definitely don't want ATO.. I have SH3 for U-Boats

I want to experience purely the Pacific area with American submarines.. just to measure in feet/yards/miles for a change lol..

So I did DL the 1.5 thing for $9.99.

Also DL'd a bunch of add on's..

So here is my plan. Tell me what you think.

SH4 - update to 1.4
U-Boat 1.5 add on
TMO
GFO
RSRD

Do these work together? Would any one of them replace another (Am I duplicating anything here?).

Again I like to play long campaigns, as realistic as possible, and I don't care about der U-Boats at this time..

Jeff

jscharpf · 10-23-13, 08:45 PM

Ok I changed my mind a bit. I'm going to start with GFO and RSRD.

I'll play with these for a while until I am ready for more.

Sailor Steve · 10-23-13, 08:50 PM

GFO fixes things that are broken in the game. The major supermods add a lot of things, but also fix the broken things. GFO is mainly when you want to not run any supermod, but want an unbroken game.

RSRD is designed to work with all supermods or none, being a campaign straightener. Just be sure to pick the version designed for the mod you're going to use.

Red October1984 · 10-23-13, 09:04 PM

Yes.

TMO and GFO won't run together.

TMO is basically (IMHO) a better version of GFO. It adds historical accuracy and realism to the game.

Tell me, did you ever play the GWX mod for SH3?

jscharpf · 10-23-13, 09:26 PM

Yes I'm playing GWX Gold with SH3 currently and I love it.

The only thing I don't like about TMO is the loss of the free camera.. I don't REALLY want it that bad but since I'm new to the game I'll spend some time just flying around looking at the scenery. Believe it or not I do this more than look at the enemy ships lol..
In any event, perhaps I will try TMO.. I assume I just reverse my installations???

Gonna do TMO then RSRD.. (leaving TMO out for now).. and start a career.

I must say this.. just playing the game.. in an AMERICAN sub.. seeing all those AMERICAN flags lol.. got used to the Swastika... now.. there is just something special and different about this.. (my dad was in a destroyer in ww2)

Also.. HOW DO I GET AN AMERICAN FLAG TO FLY ON MY SUB!!!??

Red October1984 · 10-23-13, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jscharpf

Yes I'm playing GWX Gold with SH3 currently and I love it.

The only thing I don't like about TMO is the loss of the free camera.. I don't REALLY want it that bad but since I'm new to the game I'll spend some time just flying around looking at the scenery. Believe it or not I do this more than look at the enemy ships lol..
In any event, perhaps I will try TMO.. I assume I just reverse my installations???

Gonna do TMO then RSRD.. (leaving TMO out for now).. and start a career.

I must say this.. just playing the game.. in an AMERICAN sub.. seeing all those AMERICAN flags lol.. got used to the Swastika... now.. there is just something special and different about this.. (my dad was in a destroyer in ww2)

Also.. HOW DO I GET AN AMERICAN FLAG TO FLY ON MY SUB!!!??

TMO doesn't take away the free camera.

You might have "No External Camera" checked in the realism settings

GWX's AI is harder than TMO's.

I think you really should try TMO if you're used to SH3. GFO will keep the game way too easy.

And you should get the Accurate Flags mod. Since Hawaii and Alaska weren't states in WW2, there's only 48 stars on the American flag.

I really like SH4 better than 3 because of the American theme.

Plus, the Pacific War is probably my favorite of all time as far as theatres of war/campaigns go.

Yes, the Germans were involved...but I'd much rather play Americans.

EDIT: Forgot to add installation directions for TMO.

You can install it with JSGME. And don't forget the mini-patch for it.

Be sure to install the correct version of RSRDC (which also needs the appropriate mini-patch)

After that, you're free to tweak the game as you like.

10-23-13, 08:50 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	GFO fixes things that are broken in the game. The major supermods add a lot of things, but also fix the broken things. GFO is mainly when you want to not run any supermod, but want an unbroken game. RSRD is designed to work with all supermods or none, being a campaign straightener. Just be sure to pick the version designed for the mod you're going to use. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-23-13, 09:04 PM	#5
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Yes. TMO and GFO won't run together. TMO is basically (IMHO) a better version of GFO. It adds historical accuracy and realism to the game. Tell me, did you ever play the GWX mod for SH3? __________________

10-23-13, 07:41 PM	#2
jscharpf Frogman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 296 Downloads: 325 Uploads: 0	I definitely don't want ATO.. I have SH3 for U-Boats I want to experience purely the Pacific area with American submarines.. just to measure in feet/yards/miles for a change lol.. So I did DL the 1.5 thing for $9.99. Also DL'd a bunch of add on's.. So here is my plan. Tell me what you think. SH4 - update to 1.4 U-Boat 1.5 add on TMO GFO RSRD Do these work together? Would any one of them replace another (Am I duplicating anything here?). Again I like to play long campaigns, as realistic as possible, and I don't care about der U-Boats at this time.. Jeff

10-23-13, 08:45 PM	#3
jscharpf Frogman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 296 Downloads: 325 Uploads: 0	Ok I changed my mind a bit. I'm going to start with GFO and RSRD. I'll play with these for a while until I am ready for more.

10-23-13, 09:26 PM	#6
jscharpf Frogman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 296 Downloads: 325 Uploads: 0	Yes I'm playing GWX Gold with SH3 currently and I love it. The only thing I don't like about TMO is the loss of the free camera.. I don't REALLY want it that bad but since I'm new to the game I'll spend some time just flying around looking at the scenery. Believe it or not I do this more than look at the enemy ships lol.. In any event, perhaps I will try TMO.. I assume I just reverse my installations??? Gonna do TMO then RSRD.. (leaving TMO out for now).. and start a career. I must say this.. just playing the game.. in an AMERICAN sub.. seeing all those AMERICAN flags lol.. got used to the Swastika... now.. there is just something special and different about this.. (my dad was in a destroyer in ww2) Also.. HOW DO I GET AN AMERICAN FLAG TO FLY ON MY SUB!!!??