AI generated shipping question for RSRDC

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

Thanks Webster for waying in on the permissions question. Lurker hlb3's work is something to marvel at!! His pains taking efforts to rework the Campaign files stand out to be one of the best additions to the game!!

As I mentioned I've been looking at them and am struck by the shear magnitude of the work involved. He did most of this by hand to keep the Mission Editor from reassigning his dates.......it will cause us to do the same if we intend to tweak some of his files for better game play.

yes you cant use the mission editor for making changes, its best just used to get a good overview of how things are working but you have to manually edit all the campaign mission files.

the work lurker did was brilliant and IMO at the time it was the most impressive thing done for the game. I think he got discouraged by how little people thought about the work that went into it and just wanted to sit back and snipe about this or that that THEY wanted to see and why he didn't do it the way they wanted it done. in the end I think he felt his work wasn't properly respected.

I think there was a language misunderstanding issue at times because he seamed to often felt insults from people where they didn't exist.

I respect him and his work a lot but a lot of times talented people aren't easy to get along with

Originally Posted by Armistead

OK, I guess if it came to a big issue, Neal could decide. Heck, I still remember all the crap you went through when you first came out with GFO...

yep, that pretty much put an end to my desire to create any more mods and its only the perfectionist in me that pushed me to redo some of my older mods to clean them up and fine tune them as a "final" work and contribution so to speak. I still hope one day to find the motivation and time to do a GFO v2.0 to bring in the latest tweaks created for the game but I still have a bad taste from those attacks.

in your case with RSRDC I can't see where there should be any issue since lurker is no longer on the forums and isn't around to object to anything, he hasn't posted anything else since 2011 except he popped in for one post to say merry Christmas in 2012

I don't know what the statute of limitations is on unsupported mods but I would think its an outdated abandoned mod at this point if for no other reason then there is no one to get any permissions from if you wanted to ask for it. (again just my opinion)

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by Webster

yep, that pretty much put an end to my desire to create any more mods and its only the perfectionist in me that pushed me to redo some of my older mods to clean them up and fine tune them as a "final" work and contribution so to speak. I still hope one day to find the motivation and time to do a GFO v2.0 to bring in the latest tweaks created for the game but I still have a bad taste from those attacks.

Just so ya know, I removed RSRDC until I am able to try and add some traffic of my own back into it. Or (as is more likely) until somebody with more skills than I have does it first. If it weren't for talent like that found here, my copy of SH4 would have been forgotten long ago. No way I could have made it enjoyable.

Anyway, I re-installed SH4 and used GFO as my first MOD. A life saver that was for me! As you can see, I have quite a MOD buffet going on right now- but everything works well together so far and almost no tweaking needed from me to make it happen- from my experience, always a good thing.
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[TorpX]

Originally Posted by Webster

yep, that pretty much put an end to my desire to create any more mods ... I still hope one day to find the motivation and time to do ... but I still have a bad taste from those attacks.

This is kind of discouraging, actually.

If modders and potential modders are worn down and wearied by many and varied, arcane rules of modding etiquette, we can pretty much forget about getting any further improvements to the game. I hope the powers that be will consider this, when it comes time to decide these issues.