Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Tchocky]

I'm not from the US and therefore my brain hurts looking at numbers.

Guess I'll go back to communism and enforced homosexuality.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I'm not from the US and therefore my brain hurts looking at numbers.

Guess I'll go back to communism and enforced homosexuality.

Uhh, you are more american than ya think if you like those things..

[eddie]

Gun permits for Blind People!?! You got to be kidding me!!

What next, give them drivers license too! I'm not trying to pick on them because of their disability, just that this doesn't seem to have been thought through. I would not want to be around if someone who is blind starts shooting because they feel threatened!

http://news.msn.com/us/gun-permits-f...divide-in-iowa

[August]

Originally Posted by eddie

I'm not trying to pick on them because of their disability

Sounds to me like that's exactly what you're trying to do. You advocate denying people their constitutional rights solely because of a physical impairment. Pure discrimination.

Sadly Ducimus, neither foreigners nor the anti-second amendment crowd seem swayed by cold, hard facts. Let's look at our friends across the pond in Great Britain.

England basically "banned" the ownership of handguns in 1997. They made it excessively difficult to own one legally.

In 2001 - the BBC reported that in the following 2 years (all the data that was had at the time), the use of handguns during crimes INCREASED by 40%.

The largest increases - were in the areas where there were less legally owned guns. Those areas with the (still) highest legal gun ownership showed much less increase. In other words - criminals committed a lot more crimes where they knew that the victim was more likely to me unarmed...

Documented, cold, hard facts that gun control does not stop gun crime....
But that doesn't stop the anti-gun lobby.

Nothing like cold hard facts eh can you explain what the figures are for the following years?
Do they INCREASE or decrease?
If the CAPSLOCK delivers a fail then your point is invalid for what it is trying to claim.

Why bother explaining?

Same as them trying to explain Why Kate Middleton is a duchess, and us not laughing halfway through the sentence. While we love guns, while they fear them. I am sure you mock the Kardashians,

Culture.

We agree to find each other silly.

We are, different, despite the age of the internet.

No hatred intended, just understand culture when you make your gun judgements.

An explaination might be helpful.
But Soopa the reason you can't actually explain anything is because you don't understand your own or any other culture, you repeat the very same mistake in topic after topic.
You get very basic fundamentals completely wrong then build all your arguments on that flawed foundation.

@Razark No, because that isn't one of the firearms Ducimus said wasn't used by criminals.
Should be easy enough, after all it was a very big story with some big pictures of her robbing a bank with a gun that isn't used in crimes

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Nothing like cold hard facts eh can you explain what the figures are for the following years?
Do they INCREASE or decrease?
If the CAPSLOCK delivers a fail then your point is invalid for what it is trying to claim.


An explaination might be helpful.
But Soopa the reason you can't actually explain anything is because you don't understand your own or any other culture, you repeat the very same mistake in topic after topic.
You get very basic fundamentals completely wrong then build all your arguments on that flawed foundation.

@Razark No, because that isn't one of the firearms Ducimus said wasn't used by criminals.
Should be easy enough, after all it was a very big story with some big pictures of her robbing a bank with a gun that isn't used in crimes

Oh but tribesman I explained very well, I can't explain? lols, no I did a fine job of explaining.

You failed in understanding.

You do not understand American reasoning, nor do I expect you to.

Reading the second amendment does not let you understand it, unless you lived it,.

I do not pretend to understand your take on royalty. Culturally we are different.

I do not understand my own culture? Maybe you are ignorant to ours to insult me so. I understand why Euros are turned off, as they have been banned since ww2 in most countries, but America lived by the gun, we got our independance from the gun.

I tried to be open minded, and nice....

You get the jerk from here on out on the gun topic. Take my guns if you can....

DON'T TREAD ON ME!

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Oh but tribesman I explained very well, I can't explain? lols, no I did a fine job of explaining.

I am afraid you didn't

You failed in understanding.

I understand exactly what you are saying, what you are saying is completely flawed

I do not pretend to understand your take on royalty. Culturally we are different.

That's a good one.
What is my take on royalty?

Reading the second amendment does not let you understand it, unless you lived it,.

Absolute nonsense.

I do not understand my own culture? Maybe you are ignorant to ours to insult me so. I understand why Euros are turned off, as they have been banned since ww2 in most countries, but America lived by the gun, we got our independance from the gun.

Sorry, in that you just demonstrate how wrong you are several times and very obviously

I tried to be open minded, and nice....

You get the jerk from here on out on the gun topic. Take my guns if you can....

DON'T TREAD ON ME

Now you sound like a spoilt child taking his football home because the game wasn't going his way.

[Stealhead]

It was a sawn down M1 carbine with a 30 round magazine a favored weapon of the SLA and many street gangs at one time.

Originally Posted by Stealhead

It was a sawn down M1 carbine with a 30 round magazine a favored weapon of the SLA and many street gangs at one time.

An easy example wasn't it Steelhead, it makes you wonder how someone could have made that claim in the first place.

I do understand. The US was founded on an armed rebellion by the populace against its government of the time. So yes, it is ingrained in our culture where it is not in others.

Which others? armed rebellion isn't unique to the US.

If you mean another "mass school shooting" - then your right. If you meant another mass shooting regardless of location, then I would differ.
Specifically, the Cumbria shooting spree of June 2, 2010 in which 12 people were killed and 11 injured. 33 victims, over half of which died, definitely qualifies as a mass shooting. It is interesting to note that the perpetrator in that shooting used both a shotgun and a rifle - neither of which caused any push to ban them after the tragedy.

Yes, it instead called for stricter backround checks and tighter enforcement.
Same as the sensible call would have been after Dunblane and Hungerford.

[RickC Sniper]

Originally Posted by eddie

Gun permits for Blind People!?! You got to be kidding me!!

What next, give them drivers license too! I'm not trying to pick on them because of their disability, just that this doesn't seem to have been thought through. I would not want to be around if someone who is blind starts shooting because they feel threatened!

http://news.msn.com/us/gun-permits-f...divide-in-iowa

If I were blind and lived alone, I'd want to own a handgun.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by RickC Sniper

If I were blind and lived alone, I'd want to own a handgun.

"Dad! Don't shoot! It's your daughter!"

"Are you sure?"

[August]

There's a vast difference between "blind" and "vision impaired" like what the article is really about.