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Old 09-01-13, 03:14 PM   #556
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Something I wonder about, we all are horrified by the chemical attack in Syria, and yet the bombings and killings are happening everyday in Iraq, its into the thousnads the number killed already this year, but no outcrys from Washington, how come?
If anyone knew the answer as to who prioritises what then I doubt any of us would be any the cleverer.
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Old 09-01-13, 03:15 PM   #557
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You need to stop reading these sort of websites.

Some of my friends posted this on his wall.

Right now I have a discussion with him trying to tell him why it is a hoax.

OK for about 2 min I thought that the article was genuin...but then my brain kicked in....
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Old 09-01-13, 03:21 PM   #558
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Some of my friends posted this on his wall.

Right now I have a discussion with him trying to tell him why it is a hoax.

OK for about 2 min I thought that the article was genuin...but then my brain kicked in....
Here's a helpful tip for future reference. Below are the links to three legitimate news services.

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/

http://www.cnn.com/

Notice two things: (1) The layout. The banner headlines are clearly displayed without scrolling, not hidden beneath advertisements. (2) the section tabs -- Politics, US News, Opinion, Science, Business/Money, Sports, Lifestyle. It reads like the sections of a physical newspaper.

Here's your link:

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin...attacks-syria/

Compare. The banner headline is buried beneath three advertisements. The tab sections include Crime, Justice, Activism and Survival. You can tell within seconds that this source isn't legit.
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Old 09-01-13, 03:28 PM   #559
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^of course you are right ..

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Old 09-01-13, 03:29 PM   #560
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Something I wonder about, we all are horrified by the chemical attack in Syria, and yet the bombings and killings are happening everyday in Iraq, its into the thousnads the number killed already this year, but no outcrys from Washington, how come?
As was beaten into us in our analysis courses -- Cui Bono. Which in old dead Roman talk means "who benefits"

When evaluating pretty much any think dealing with foreign policy, it is always wise to ask "who benefits" from an action or decision.

Don't has "how come". Ask "who benefits" and you will have greater understanding of the dirty scummy world that makes up foreign policy.

I don't consider myself to be a conspiracy theorist, but ..... (how's that for a lead in? )

In September, Congress has to vote to increase our debt limit. What better rational for convincing uncooperative members of Congress of the need to increase it than the US being "forced" to respond to an "unavoidable" "emergency" such as a civil war in Syria.

Cui Bono

We can always just sell some more T-Bills...........
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Old 09-01-13, 03:41 PM   #561
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Here's a helpful tip for future reference. Below are the links to three legitimate news services.

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.cbsnews.com/

http://www.cnn.com/

Notice two things: (1) The layout. The banner headlines are clearly displayed without scrolling, not hidden beneath advertisements. (2) the section tabs -- Politics, US News, Opinion, Science, Business/Money, Sports, Lifestyle. It reads like the sections of a physical newspaper.

Here's your link:

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/08/putin...attacks-syria/

Compare. The banner headline is buried beneath three advertisements. The tab sections include Crime, Justice, Activism and Survival. You can tell within seconds that this source isn't legit.
Thanks for the advice.

I mostly use CNN both by watching and reading.

I told my friend that "In case of" a direct confrontation between USA and Russia it could be true. But neither Russia and USA is interested in such a thing.
Yes I guess Russia is going to help Syria in any way they can, without getting in a situation where a direct confrontation could be happening.

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Old 09-01-13, 03:43 PM   #562
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I doubt Syria is valuable enough for Russia to risk escalating any conflict even remotely approaching a nuclear confrontation.
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Old 09-01-13, 04:09 PM   #563
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Thanks Mapuc and Platapus: As before: Reread the Arms of Krupp to discover the Vickers/Krupp buidup to WWI and transpose that to the third millennium-nothing really changes. Then apply a total embargo at first and work up thru levels of force as needed, as any LEO is trained, and we think we're the world's police! The Arab League has already turned away from Syria and money is the 'sinews of war'...hence the embargo for starters.
"The Arabic League has already..."

Ok could be that our expert to middle east is wrong. Have heard several times that almost each country, such as S.A, Yemen, UAE etc is funding their own fraction in this civilwar. I can't remember which fraction that gets money from S.A.

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Old 09-01-13, 04:25 PM   #564
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In September, Congress has to vote to increase our debt limit. What better rational for convincing uncooperative members of Congress of the need to increase it than the US being "forced" to respond to an "unavoidable" "emergency" such as a civil war in Syria.

Cui Bono

We can always just sell some more T-Bills...........
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Old 09-01-13, 04:56 PM   #565
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I doubt Syria is valuable enough for Russia to risk escalating any conflict even remotely approaching a nuclear confrontation.
Someone probably once said the same thing about a crummy little island in the Caribbean.

Russia has economic and strategic links to Syria that have to be considered.
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Old 09-01-13, 05:14 PM   #566
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Until such evidence is presented, it is well to keep repeating this.

This is why I am very happy that samples were collected and will be evaluated by an independent organization.

We need to have a scientific answer, not a political or emotional answer.
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despite a lot of speeches, desinformation and propaganda:

Still no evidence about chemical weapons.
Even the Iranians are now saying Assad gassed them.

If you can't trust an Iranian government official when it comes to the truth about WMDs who can you trust?
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Aussies in Syria? Just wonder how true this is?

http://world.time.com/2013/07/16/gda...#ixzz2bLvaldWF
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So, let me get this straight.

The Russians and the Americans are sending warships into the Persian Gulf, there's a civil war in the Middle East, weapons of mass destruction have been used, the British are on the sidelines but still lending moral support, Western nations are planning a well-intended military intervention, and Iran is somehow in the middle of it all?

Real life just turned into Threads. Speaking of which, does anyone know where my cyanide pills are? You know, just in case.
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Old 09-01-13, 06:21 PM   #569
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Screw WWIII
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So, let me get this straight.

The Russians and the Americans are sending warships into the Persian Gulf, there's a civil war in the Middle East, weapons of mass destruction have been used, the British are on the sidelines but still lending moral support, Western nations are planning a well-intended military intervention, and Iran is somehow in the middle of it all?
What could possibly go wrong?
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