the Narwhal mod

Admiral Halsey · 08-06-13, 08:18 PM

Bubblehead you better remove the link before people who didn't donate start downloading it.

c13Garrison · 08-06-13, 08:52 PM

I have it safely, and I've donated twice now in the last 10 days, so I'm pretty sure Neal will be content.

Thanks so much for helping me out. In exchange, more zanny hilarity from Subron 13 will ensue!!

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LOL What the heck- my last avatar was actually pretty cool, and now I"ve aged 80 years and gone cartoonish!

Admiral Halsey · 08-06-13, 08:56 PM

I know you donated.(The subsim badge was proof of that.) He needs to remove the link so people who didn't donate can't download it.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-06-13, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Bubblehead you better remove the link before people who didn't donate start downloading it.

The donation period is over, I got the link from simple forum search, which linked to a post back when i asked about a TMO version, the link was posted in said post.No need to remove the link.

c13Garrison · 08-07-13, 10:21 AM

Well, finally got the Proper Narwhal installed, and ran it out on a new career. ...or two. Which performances we are going to call "tests."

What it Can do.

Swiftly deal with a disabled merchant with its guns, and defeat a minelayer in open waters without much damage.

What it cannot do.

Sail across a convoy's "T" and gun it out with them. Merchants have 3" bow-chasers (lineage of the British 6-pounder gun?), and 9 of them make for a Large volume of fire. ...don't ask me how I know...

Surface in a Harbor and duel it out with everything docked there. ...I heard somebody did this, it certainly wasn't me...

So, it seems the best thing to do is Forget you have 2 6" guns, and just know that if you're forced to the surface by a lone escort you have a Slightly better chance of winning than other boats would. Which is "not very good."

It looks great btw, as advertised.

Bubblehead1980 · 08-07-13, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by c13Garrison

Well, finally got the Proper Narwhal installed, and ran it out on a new career. ...or two. Which performances we are going to call "tests."

What it Can do.

Swiftly deal with a disabled merchant with its guns, and defeat a minelayer in open waters without much damage.

What it cannot do.

Sail across a convoy's "T" and gun it out with them. Merchants have 3" bow-chasers (lineage of the British 6-pounder gun?), and 9 of them make for a Large volume of fire. ...don't ask me how I know...

Surface in a Harbor and duel it out with everything docked there. ...I heard somebody did this, it certainly wasn't me...

So, it seems the best thing to do is Forget you have 2 6" guns, and just know that if you're forced to the surface by a lone escort you have a Slightly better chance of winning than other boats would. Which is "not very good."

It looks great btw, as advertised.

Well have to remember its still a sub lol. I wil say this, if you can ambush a DD or other small warship with those guns, meaning on a dark night from about 4000 yards, turn your broadside to them so both guns are on them at ideal angles and you operate one to ensure you score a fire hit, order to fire, fire and let the AI controlled one fire, you score two hits, then follow up, its devastating. Also in later war you can mount a forward and aft 40 MM in place of the .50 cal or 20 mm, operate one of those, plus let the AI 6 inch guns bang away at a target, highly effective.

I would use the Narwhal more but RSRD lacks the large amount of special missions for her(beyond the Makin raid, which i improved) so once have more special missions for 43 on, sure I will use it more.

TorpX · 08-09-13, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by c13Garrison

Well, finally got the Proper Narwhal installed, and ran it out on a new career. ...or two. Which performances we are going to call "tests."

What it Can do.

....

What it cannot do.
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Interesting report there.

I think part of the reason the Narwhals seem to lack any pizzazz in the game, is that the game's gunnery model is so poor. We expect that 2x 6 inch guns should offer a dramatic improvement, but in SH4, a 4 inch gun can sink a medium sized merchant fairly well, so what's the point? If the shell damage numbers were more restrained, there might be some value in the 6 inchers.

Admiral Halsey · 08-09-13, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

Interesting report there.

I think part of the reason the Narwhals seem to lack any pizzazz in the game, is that the game's gunnery model is so poor. We expect that 2x 6 inch guns should offer a dramatic improvement, but in SH4, a 4 inch gun can sink a medium sized merchant fairly well, so what's the point? If the shell damage numbers were more restrained, there might be some value in the 6 inchers.

I just tried it myself and I have to say the guns are better then what the Pseudo-Narwhal had for sure.(Plus since it has better protection I have yet to fire a torpedo at any ship that only has AA guns.)

chris455 · 08-10-13, 12:24 PM

With a carefully selected gun crew, I find the 6" guns on the Donation Narwhal to be devastating.

Admiral Halsey · 08-10-13, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chris455

With a carefully selected gun crew, I find the 6" guns on the Donation Narwhal to be devastating.

Even more so when one of the gunners has the tin can crossover ability.

Admiral Halsey · 08-07-13, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

The donation period is over, I got the link from simple forum search, which linked to a post back when i asked about a TMO version, the link was posted in said post.No need to remove the link.

So I can download it?

Bubblehead1980 · 08-07-13, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

So I can download it?

Yes

Admiral Halsey · 08-07-13, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Yes

Awesome. Oh and RSRD has the Makin Island raid?

Bubblehead1980 · 08-07-13, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Awesome. Oh and RSRD has the Makin Island raid?

Sure does, not much to it other than inserting the Marines, which is why i improved it for mod im releasing but its there.

Admiral Halsey · 08-07-13, 05:05 PM

Your releasing a mod?

08-06-13, 08:18 PM	#1
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	Bubblehead you better remove the link before people who didn't donate start downloading it.

08-06-13, 08:52 PM	#2
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I have it safely, and I've donated twice now in the last 10 days, so I'm pretty sure Neal will be content. Thanks so much for helping me out. In exchange, more zanny hilarity from Subron 13 will ensue!! Begin McHale's Navy theme... ___ LOL What the heck- my last avatar was actually pretty cool, and now I"ve aged 80 years and gone cartoonish!

08-06-13, 08:56 PM	#3
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	I know you donated.(The subsim badge was proof of that.) He needs to remove the link so people who didn't donate can't download it.

08-07-13, 10:21 AM	#5
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Well, finally got the Proper Narwhal installed, and ran it out on a new career. ...or two. Which performances we are going to call "tests." What it Can do. Swiftly deal with a disabled merchant with its guns, and defeat a minelayer in open waters without much damage. What it cannot do. Sail across a convoy's "T" and gun it out with them. Merchants have 3" bow-chasers (lineage of the British 6-pounder gun?), and 9 of them make for a Large volume of fire. ...don't ask me how I know... Surface in a Harbor and duel it out with everything docked there. ...I heard somebody did this, it certainly wasn't me... So, it seems the best thing to do is Forget you have 2 6" guns, and just know that if you're forced to the surface by a lone escort you have a Slightly better chance of winning than other boats would. Which is "not very good." It looks great btw, as advertised.

08-10-13, 12:24 PM	#9
chris455 A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 71 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	With a carefully selected gun crew, I find the 6" guns on the Donation Narwhal to be devastating.

08-07-13, 05:05 PM	#15
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	Your releasing a mod?