Boing 777 crash in San Francisco

Tchocky · 07-06-13, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

ATC recording:
http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

Everything here is after the inital hit, which supports the tailstrike hypothesis. AAR214 only comes on after reaching the ground. Normally after being cleared to land there's no radio contact until rollout. Sounds like the controller spotted the impact and was quick to reassure the pilot that EMS were on the way.

In most of these events 90% of radio comms is getting other traffic out of the way, creating space and time for the flight crew to do whatever they have to do, and clear the runway/taxiways for emergency vehicles. THat's why you don't hear much from 214.

Oberon · 07-06-13, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Everything here is after the inital hit, which supports the tailstrike hypothesis. AAR214 only comes on after reaching the ground. Normally after being cleared to land there's no radio contact until rollout. Sounds like the controller spotted the impact and was quick to reassure the pilot that EMS were on the way.

In most of these events 90% of radio comms is getting other traffic out of the way, creating space and time for the flight crew to do whatever they have to do, and clear the runway/taxiways for emergency vehicles. THat's why you don't hear much from 214.

Yeah, you can hear the very quick instruction to go around, and the climb and maintain altitude given immediately after what I presume is the impact time approximately 40 seconds in, you hear a few raised voices and Skyhawk 737 immediately announces or is told to go around. United 85 asks 'for a few more minutes' and is told to hold short of 28L which is where the 777 crashed.

Oberon · 07-06-13, 05:58 PM

More data, not sure how accurate it is:

(original at - https://twitter.com/sbaker/status/35...494208/photo/1 )

Midnight news on Radio Four just announced 2 dead and 70 injured, some seriously.

TarJak · 07-06-13, 07:01 PM

smh is reporting 2 dead with 60 unaccounted for.

BossMark · 07-07-13, 01:14 AM

Boeing Plane Crash Lands In San Francisco

http://news.sky.com/story/1112466/bo...-san-francisco
Two people have been killed and more than 150 others injured.

Latest update at 5.46 am GMT

TarJak · 07-07-13, 06:17 AM

Press release on Asiana's website: http://flyasiana.com/notice/notice_en.asp

Having worked in the industry I'm always interested to see who different airlines handle these sorts of incidents. The way it is done can make a real difference to whether they stay in business or not.

Catfish · 07-07-13, 06:27 AM

Terrible accident, but from the number of survivors it could have been much worse .. not that this adds any solace.
I read some accounts and it seems sure by now, that the plane came in too low and the tail touched the shoreline, then breaking off. The forward part was virtually uncontrollable with the steering end missing ..
So it was either an automatic landing failure, or a pilot error. Not a plane design fault.

07-06-13, 05:58 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	More data, not sure how accurate it is: (original at - https://twitter.com/sbaker/status/35...494208/photo/1 ) Midnight news on Radio Four just announced 2 dead and 70 injured, some seriously. Last edited by Oberon; 07-06-13 at 06:27 PM.

07-07-13, 01:14 AM	#5
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	Boeing Plane Crash Lands In San Francisco http://news.sky.com/story/1112466/bo...-san-francisco Two people have been killed and more than 150 others injured. Latest update at 5.46 am GMT __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now

07-06-13, 07:01 PM	#4
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	smh is reporting 2 dead with 60 unaccounted for.

07-07-13, 06:17 AM	#6
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Press release on Asiana's website: http://flyasiana.com/notice/notice_en.asp Having worked in the industry I'm always interested to see who different airlines handle these sorts of incidents. The way it is done can make a real difference to whether they stay in business or not.

07-07-13, 06:27 AM	#7
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Terrible accident, but from the number of survivors it could have been much worse .. not that this adds any solace. I read some accounts and it seems sure by now, that the plane came in too low and the tail touched the shoreline, then breaking off. The forward part was virtually uncontrollable with the steering end missing .. So it was either an automatic landing failure, or a pilot error. Not a plane design fault.