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mapuc 07-06-13 02:29 PM

Boing 777 crash in San Francisco
 
Got no link yet. Have it from the danish news that a Boeing 777 crashed during landing in San Francisco

The plane should be in fire and they don't know if there's any dead or wounded

Markus

Platapus 07-06-13 02:33 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/06/us/cal...ent/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/06...ional-airport/

Does not appear to be too many details yet.

Best wishes for the passengers, crew, and people on the ground. :yep:

mapuc 07-06-13 02:41 PM

^ thank you Platapus

Oberon 07-06-13 02:48 PM

As strange as it may sound, if you're going to have an unintended interaction with terrain anywhere, the best place to do it is at an airport, the emergency services are top notch and drilled regularly. Here's hoping for no casualties and a swift resolution to the situation.

Platapus 07-06-13 03:02 PM

There are reports of "Evacuation slides could be seen extending from one side of the aircraft". That might be a good sign that at least some were able to get out.

CaptainHaplo 07-06-13 03:15 PM

From what I can see, it looks like he was too low and slow, he dragged the tail and it broke the arse end off. May all be safe.

Oberon 07-06-13 03:39 PM

ATC recording:
http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

TarJak 07-06-13 04:35 PM

This report says 291 people accounted for according to a radio scanner who posted on Twitter what they heard on firefighter radio.

http://m.smh.com.au/travel/travel-in...707-2pjm8.html

Hope everyone is safe and uninjured.

Tchocky 07-06-13 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2080358)


Everything here is after the inital hit, which supports the tailstrike hypothesis. AAR214 only comes on after reaching the ground. Normally after being cleared to land there's no radio contact until rollout. Sounds like the controller spotted the impact and was quick to reassure the pilot that EMS were on the way.

In most of these events 90% of radio comms is getting other traffic out of the way, creating space and time for the flight crew to do whatever they have to do, and clear the runway/taxiways for emergency vehicles. THat's why you don't hear much from 214.

Oberon 07-06-13 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2080382)
Everything here is after the inital hit, which supports the tailstrike hypothesis. AAR214 only comes on after reaching the ground. Normally after being cleared to land there's no radio contact until rollout. Sounds like the controller spotted the impact and was quick to reassure the pilot that EMS were on the way.

In most of these events 90% of radio comms is getting other traffic out of the way, creating space and time for the flight crew to do whatever they have to do, and clear the runway/taxiways for emergency vehicles. THat's why you don't hear much from 214.

Yeah, you can hear the very quick instruction to go around, and the climb and maintain altitude given immediately after what I presume is the impact time approximately 40 seconds in, you hear a few raised voices and Skyhawk 737 immediately announces or is told to go around. United 85 asks 'for a few more minutes' and is told to hold short of 28L which is where the 777 crashed.

Oberon 07-06-13 05:58 PM

More data, not sure how accurate it is:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/855/mxb4.jpg

(original at - https://twitter.com/sbaker/status/35...494208/photo/1 )


Midnight news on Radio Four just announced 2 dead and 70 injured, some seriously.

TarJak 07-06-13 07:01 PM

smh is reporting 2 dead with 60 unaccounted for.

BossMark 07-07-13 01:14 AM

Boeing Plane Crash Lands In San Francisco

http://news.sky.com/story/1112466/bo...-san-francisco
Two people have been killed and more than 150 others injured.

Latest update at 5.46 am GMT

TarJak 07-07-13 06:17 AM

Press release on Asiana's website: http://flyasiana.com/notice/notice_en.asp

Having worked in the industry I'm always interested to see who different airlines handle these sorts of incidents. The way it is done can make a real difference to whether they stay in business or not.

Catfish 07-07-13 06:27 AM

Terrible accident, but from the number of survivors it could have been much worse .. not that this adds any solace.
I read some accounts and it seems sure by now, that the plane came in too low and the tail touched the shoreline, then breaking off. The forward part was virtually uncontrollable with the steering end missing ..
So it was either an automatic landing failure, or a pilot error. Not a plane design fault.


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