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Old 06-11-13, 05:30 PM   #16
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I hope he at least told the judge that he had just come from a WWII re-enactment event. Still, it makes me wonder. Were their children malnourished, not attending school, sexually/physically abused? There are more than just "some" strange and weird people in this world. Many parents teach their children to hate. Some do it knowingly and some do it inadvertently. A child learns more from their parents' behavior than they do from their words/admonitions. These parents wear Nazi garb. Yes; strange, bizarre, weird, but where do we draw the line in taking someone's children away from them.

The father said “I want to raise my kids the way I want to”. Last time I checked, this was supposed to be a free country. If he changed his bizarre attire but still raised his children the way he wants, would he get his children back?
I wish I knew the whole story, as hopefully more there is, for having his children taken away. I'm not pro-nazi, neo-nazi, anarchistic or of any other hateful "ism". What other garb, political/religious followers do we turn to next in separating the children from their parents?
Then again, on the other hand, I do have trouble reconciling his choice of attire for the court hearing. I certainly wouldn't go around dressed in a nazi, or any other type of military uniform. Maybe, they actually did not want their children back.
Oh, oh, I smell wood burning again. Time for me to stop thinking.
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Old 06-11-13, 08:59 PM   #17
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Oh, oh, I smell wood burning again. Time for me to stop thinking.
In a thread about a nazi at least we hope it's wood that you smell.
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Old 06-11-13, 09:19 PM   #18
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I went to court last summer as a witness for a neighbor, criminal court was very interesting. The judge was an old black man, very funny and overall lenient. However, one man got called up for masturbating in public, his second offense. The judge was like "Lord have mercy, a chronic masturbator" I almost felt sorry for the guy, he appeared homeless and mentally ill and entire courtroom was laughing. He got irate gave the judge the finger and told him to go "screw with an F himself", and got 30 days.
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Old 06-11-13, 10:36 PM   #19
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I went to court last summer as a witness for a neighbor, criminal court was very interesting. The judge was an old black man, very funny and overall lenient. However, one man got called up for masturbating in public, his second offense. The judge was like "Lord have mercy, a chronic masturbator" I almost felt sorry for the guy, he appeared homeless and mentally ill and entire courtroom was laughing. He got irate gave the judge the finger and told him to go "screw with an F himself", and got 30 days.

I recon being a chronic public masturbator might make it difficult for one to acquire gainful employment.Imagine explaining that one during an interview for a job bet he does not get a handshake at the end of the interview.

Sounds to me like the guy is cyclical anyway goes to jail gets out then does something to get back in.
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Old 06-11-13, 11:27 PM   #20
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These parents wear Nazi garb. Yes; strange, bizarre, weird, but where do we draw the line in taking someone's children away from them.
Somewhere north of those two nuts I would hope.
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Old 06-11-13, 11:38 PM   #21
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Maybe these two are just trying to blend in with the rest of the fascists in our society, the courts and the corporate plutocracy.
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What other garb, political/religious followers do we turn to next in separating the children from their parents?
Are the Black Panthers who teach their kids to hate Whites next? Sharia following Muslims? Parents who home school? While I too do not agree with the Nazi beliefs, as long as their kids are not malnourished, attending school, and not sexually/physically abused, I see no legal reason to take their kids away. If their kids can be taken away solely because of their political beliefs, who's kids are next?

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Maybe these two are just trying to blend in with the rest of the fascists in our society, the courts and the corporate plutocracy.

It would not be in the best interest of a corporate plutocracy to promote fascist or nationalist type ideas honestly especially seeing as all of the major corporations in the world
have operations around the world a nation/s under their thumb having a fascist or nationalist ideological beliefs would be rather negative on the ones wishing to have control.
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Old 06-12-13, 12:46 AM   #24
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While I too do not agree with the Nazi beliefs, as long as their kids are not malnourished, attending school, and not sexually/physically abused, I see no legal reason to take their kids away. If their kids can be taken away solely because of their political beliefs, who's kids are next?
The kids were taken away over allegations of domestic abuse.
The father has a history of child and wife abuse in his previous marriages.
The evidence at the hearing would appear to show the current marriage is also full of wife and child abuse
His current wife wrote a letter saying she thought her husband was going to murder her (which triggered to intervention).
None of her many subsequent explainations of that letter make any sense.
So it would appear the fact that he is a dumb nazi has nothing to do with the removal of custody.

Which also answers Wernhers......These parents wear Nazi garb. Yes; strange, bizarre, weird, but where do we draw the line in taking someone's children away from them.

The father said “I want to raise my kids the way I want to”. Last time I checked, this was supposed to be a free country. If he changed his bizarre attire but still raised his children the way he wants, would he get his children back?
I wish I knew the whole story, as hopefully more there is, for having his children taken away.
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I recon being a chronic public masturbator might make it difficult for one to acquire gainful employment.Imagine explaining that one during an interview for a job bet he does not get a handshake at the end of the interview.

Sounds to me like the guy is cyclical anyway goes to jail gets out then does something to get back in.

Yea, I'm sure Wern could tell many a crazy story of what people did in court. I have no doubt many will insult a judge to get thrown in jail, maybe better than living in the street.
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The letter by the wife that sparked the custody issue

If anything may happened to me please
do an altops on me b/c My husband has done
something to me. If there is drugs in my
system then him or some of his friends put
them there b/c I don't do drugs. Hes thrend
to have me killed or kill me himself hes
alread tried it a few times. Im scare to
leave b/c I will be killed. Im afread that
he might hurt my children if they are keeped
in his care. I know that one day he will
kill me and Im scared to death that he will.
Im very afread of him. Im scared for my
life when he's around. Hes always putting
his hands on me. He's already stabed me
with a screwdriver in the hand. Im afread
for my life. Please do an investagtion on
my death b/c I would be murdered by my
husband or his friends. He teaches my son
how to kill someone at the age of 3.

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Old 06-12-13, 04:08 AM   #27
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The kids were taken away over allegations of domestic abuse.
The father has a history of child and wife abuse in his previous marriages.
The evidence at the hearing would appear to show the current marriage is also full of wife and child abuse
His current wife wrote a letter saying she thought her husband was going to murder her (which triggered to intervention).
None of her many subsequent explainations of that letter make any sense.
So it would appear the fact that he is a dumb nazi has nothing to do with the removal of custody.

Which also answers Wernhers......These parents wear Nazi garb. Yes; strange, bizarre, weird, but where do we draw the line in taking someone's children away from them.

The father said “I want to raise my kids the way I want to”. Last time I checked, this was supposed to be a free country. If he changed his bizarre attire but still raised his children the way he wants, would he get his children back?
I wish I knew the whole story, as hopefully more there is, for having his children taken away.
Yes, that is exactly what I was asking and didn't know at the time of my post. Maybe I misread or missed the continuation of the article, which seemed to imply that the children were removed simply over the family names/attire. Now it makes more sense.
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So it would appear the fact that he is a dumb nazi has nothing to do with the removal of custody.
Hoorah for that.
Unfortunately it won't stop the usual unfunny and boring nazi jokes.
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Hoorah for that.
Unfortunately it won't stop the usual unfunny and boring nazi jokes.
I think nazis need to be mocked and denigrated constantly lest some impressionable fool think that such a creed of hate is acceptable in our society.
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I think nazis need to be mocked and denigrated constantly lest some impressionable fool think that such a creed of hate is acceptable in our society.
I doubt very much that anyone thinks that Nazism is ever going to be 'funny'.
My point was that the usual nazi jokes are just not funny anymore.
After 60-odd years of so-called funny jokes it gets a bit tiring.
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