Attention: Democracy is Under Attack in Turkey !

Cybermat47 · 06-01-13, 02:05 AM

They attacked people protesting about a recreational area!? That's disgusting!

Hottentot · 06-01-13, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

They attacked people protesting about a recreational area!?

Based on one poster, a virtual flyer and link on an Internet forum.

Cambaz · 06-01-13, 04:05 AM

BBC News

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423

Hottentot · 06-01-13, 04:07 AM

For the record, I didn't mean to accuse you of lying. Just urged a little source criticism before declaring something disgusting.

Betonov · 06-01-13, 04:30 AM

With us it was the speed traps, with the Turks it was parks.

Bring them down and hang them high

Skybird · 06-01-13, 04:40 AM

?!?! My friend, your Kemalist attempt to have a secular democracy in your country is under constant attack and siege since Erdoghan and his AKP were voted by your people into power!

Cambaz · 06-01-13, 05:06 AM

that is true, but we are the ones who are not voted for them

this is a rebellion against radical islamist fascistic tyrant AKP and Erdogan so don't accuse me and the people struggling for protecting their freedom, rights and secular republic...

Cybermat47 · 06-01-13, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

Just urged a little source criticism before declaring something disgusting.

Good advice, thanks.

Red October1984 · 06-02-13, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottentot

Based on one poster, a virtual flyer and link on an Internet forum.

Don't you know? Everything on the internet is completely true. Who would lie on the internet?

Skybird · 06-04-13, 07:40 AM

The beginning of th end game for Erdoghan?

LINK

Maybe, maybe not. We'll see. Question is will securalism in general gain something from him, or will the AKP just change the name at the top and remain unharmed power and continue with the creeping u-turning of society back to the pre-Kemalist era? Erdoghan may have to leave. But the AKP still is a fundamentalist party with plenty of support in the rural areas where the vast majority of Turkish people live. Yül is less confronting towards European states, but not any softer in his religious and nationalistic views as Erdoghan. He is more clever in playing the game without stirring so much resistance to him. That could make him even more dangerous for Europe than Erdoghan, because EU-idiots will hang on his lips and enjoy with delight what he will tell them - and he will friendly tell them what they want to hear. With Erdoghan'S undisguised "let'S rearrange the China shop" approach on foreign politics, it was not difficult to identify him as what he is. With Yül, that would be more difficult.

I would wish the Turks succeed in not only getting rid of Erdoghan, but the AKP and the majority supporting it as well. Without the AKP being massively driven back as well, anything the revolt now could achieve, will just be something of temporary meaning. An intermezzo.

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Cambaz Gunner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: İstanbul/TÜRKİYE Posts: 92 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423 __________________

06-01-13, 04:07 AM	#4
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	For the record, I didn't mean to accuse you of lying. Just urged a little source criticism before declaring something disgusting. __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	?!?! My friend, your Kemalist attempt to have a secular democracy in your country is under constant attack and siege since Erdoghan and his AKP were voted by your people into power! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-01-13, 05:06 AM	#7
Cambaz Gunner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: İstanbul/TÜRKİYE Posts: 92 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	that is true, but we are the ones who are not voted for them this is a rebellion against radical islamist fascistic tyrant AKP and Erdogan so don't accuse me and the people struggling for protecting their freedom, rights and secular republic... __________________

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	With us it was the speed traps, with the Turks it was parks. Bring them down and hang them high

06-04-13, 07:40 AM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,680 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The beginning of th end game for Erdoghan? LINK Maybe, maybe not. We'll see. Question is will securalism in general gain something from him, or will the AKP just change the name at the top and remain unharmed power and continue with the creeping u-turning of society back to the pre-Kemalist era? Erdoghan may have to leave. But the AKP still is a fundamentalist party with plenty of support in the rural areas where the vast majority of Turkish people live. Yül is less confronting towards European states, but not any softer in his religious and nationalistic views as Erdoghan. He is more clever in playing the game without stirring so much resistance to him. That could make him even more dangerous for Europe than Erdoghan, because EU-idiots will hang on his lips and enjoy with delight what he will tell them - and he will friendly tell them what they want to hear. With Erdoghan'S undisguised "let'S rearrange the China shop" approach on foreign politics, it was not difficult to identify him as what he is. With Yül, that would be more difficult. I would wish the Turks succeed in not only getting rid of Erdoghan, but the AKP and the majority supporting it as well. Without the AKP being massively driven back as well, anything the revolt now could achieve, will just be something of temporary meaning. An intermezzo. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.