Boy Scouts of America votes to ease ban on gay members

[garren]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Does this Garrin guy wear a clown mask and cackle as he says this crap, or is he serious?

Reminds me of a surly clown at a dunk booth. most people stop trying to hit the target that dunks the clown, and just tries to wail the clown with the ball.

How many bruises from thrown baseballs does this stooge have?



*Krusty the clown laugh*

That's trolling

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by garren

That's trolling

U mad?

Dude, you make me look reasonable.

Trolling, or calling out your bigotry and lack of open mindedness in a comical fashion?

Call it what ya want ol boy.

I know a LOLcow when I see one

(get it? we are laughing at you)

[garren]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Multiple Messiahs on multiple bicycles. There's not much point continuing this, seeing as you're convinced homosexuality is the same as vampirism.

From what I understand sexuality is but a part of it. Genders mature and develop at different times and rates, different moods and changes. That said, mixed-sex schools get along just fine, as do single-sex schools.

Also gender is split roughly fifty/fifty, whereas sexuality is certainly a majority/minority situation that I don't believe warrants segregation, and I think any segregation perpetuates negative attitudes, especially in younger people.

Certainly not the level of discourse we're having now, and certainly not within scouting troops. I'd say once the BSA gets rid of these unhelpful restrictions it will get back to the business of Scouting. The adjustment will be minor, unless homophobia takes up more time in Scouting than I know. Just guessing, mind

Oh I've no idea about the levels, you may well be right. I'd guess more religious organisations support it. Question is whether being exclusionary and fencing yourself off to a sector of society is worth it just to appease these organisations?

The rise of support and acceptance for homosexuals (and corresponding decrease in homophobic policymaking) has been blisteringly fast in recent years. I don't see it being a wedge issue for much longer, so I don't see the "tearing apart" happening here to any great extent.

There's an obvious divide among the people. Isn't it obvious? So the government and gay supporters throwing fuel on the fire is your answer. Let's just enrage the hell out of the one side that is against this absurdity. We don't even allow straight males to shower with straight females but we're going to allow gay males to shower with each other and with straight males? So gays have more privilege than heterosexuals? Why not segregate them so they can have their own thing. You just admitted that people segregate themselves based on common interests anyways so how is it discriminating against them if they're going to do it anyways? What you're arguing for is that gays won't be allowed to trespass against another group that doesn't agree with their way of life. Well ain't that shame! Isn't that groups rights and concerns valid too? Hell, let's force Jews to congregate with Christians and Christians to congregate with Muslims while we're at it. Because what that is IS forced integration - a part of the New World Order phenomenon of getting everyone to be just like everyone else and not celebrating diversity at all. Because when you integrate people into one large group, popular opinion takes place an everyone will be forced to comply and do just as everyone else does or be an outcast and feel unwelcomed - sort of like on here as a matter of fact where I'm taking on like 10 of you turkeys by myself with very little backing. But I do have a valid argument and all I'm getting for it is mockery and shaming for my sexual beliefs. Now you have your proof that it goes both ways but you're so bigoted in your views that you don't care about mine. You just want to trespass on my way of life and that's very wrong. I'm not trying to get involved in the gay functions out there but they are certainly trying to get into mine. There's enough room in this world for them to have their land and me and my crowd to have ours. It doesn't have to be an integrated nightmare for everyone.

[garren]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

U mad?

Dude, you make me look reasonable.

Trolling, or calling out your bigotry and lack of open mindedness in a comical fashion?

Call it what ya want ol boy.

I know a LOLcow when I see one

What's good for the goose pal...

I see you're side of the argument as being bigoted as well. But I'm not calling you a clown and making personal attacks on you either. I just want to be heard and respected just the same if that's alright with you?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by garren

We don't even allow straight males to shower with straight females but we're going to allow gay males to shower with each other and with straight males? So gays have more privilege than heterosexuals? Why not segregate them so they can have their own thing. You just admitted that people segregate themselves based on common interests anyways so how is it discriminating against them if they're going to do it anyways?

What? "if people will choose to do it anyway we may as well legally force them". You see how stupid this is.

Hell, let's force Jews to congregate with Christians and Christians to congregate with Muslims while we're at it.

You're missing the point by several light years. This is not forcing people together, the entire point of equal rights is that you don't get to discriminate against people on basis of sexuality. This does not equal "forcing people to integrate".

Because what that is IS forced integration - a part of the New World Order phenomenon of getting everyone to be just like everyone else and not celebrating diversity at all.

Oh right. Never mind then. It's the reptilians working through the Rothschilds, obviously.

Because when you integrate people into one large group, popular opinion takes place an everyone will be forced to comply and do just as everyone else does or be an outcast and feel unwelcomed - sort of like on here as a matter of fact where I'm taking on like 10 of you turkeys by myself with very little backing.

Again, you're missing the point. Rescinding discrimination does not equal forced integration.

But I do have a valid argument and all I'm getting for it is mockery and shaming for my sexual beliefs.

The reason you're getting mockery is because you are saying very mockable things. For example - gay sex is vampirism.

Now you have your proof that it goes both ways but you're so bigoted in your views that you don't care about mine. You just want to trespass on my way of life and that's very wrong.

Can't say I care too much about what you think, no.

BUT

Unless your beliefs include "everyone must pay attention to me all the time" I don't see how my disdain trespasses on what you call your "way of life".

I'm not trying to get involved in the gay functions out there but they are certainly trying to get into mine. There's enough room in this world for them to have their land and me and my crowd to have ours.

AH yes. As long as we send them all off to a different country everything will be fine.

Glory be.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by garren

What's good for the goose pal...

I see you're side of the argument as being bigoted as well. But I'm not calling you a clown and making personal attacks on you either. I just want to be heard and respected just the same if that's alright with you?

That is fine sir.

But how does their lifestyle effect you?

Exactly, unless they are commiting sodomy in the street then what concern is it of you?

Even if they are, laugh at it, and move on.

Unless you are somewhat enticed by the lifestyle, Usually the biggest contenders, are often times the biggest offenders.

It is ok Garrin, we will not judge you, be who you want to be.


Let her words speak to you.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by garren

I see you're side of the argument as being bigoted as well. But I'm not calling you a clown and making personal attacks on you either. I just want to be heard and respected just the same if that's alright with you?

Oh my god.... Really? The moment he suddenly lightly insults you...you get all defensive?

You've said enough to where I doubt there's much respect for you on this forum. I'm not personally attacking you...but you need to just stop if you've got anything in that noggin of yours.

Or you could continue and give us all some more laughs. This has been a funny thread to follow...

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by August

Back in my day the BSA wasn't about sex, let alone gay sex. It'll be sad if the Scout organization tears itself apart over this issue and that's what i'm afraid will happen.

By banning gay members from the start, it's the BSA itself that made it about sex.

This is merely a case of an organization finally reversing foolish policies.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

By banning gay members from the start, it's the BSA itself that made it about sex.

This is merely a case of an organization finally reversing foolish policies.

Point, match, win.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

By banning gay members from the start, it's the BSA itself that made it about sex.

This is merely a case of an organization finally reversing foolish policies.

Until Garren showed up. Then it became a humor thread...

It's sad how unforgiving General Topics can be.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Until Garren showed up. Then it became a humor thread...

It's sad how unforgiving General Topics can be.

Yes, Garriin, we are just as terrible as you, the difference is we are laughing as we post., you are whipped up in a fundy bible driven rage froth.

We get it, and your beliefs are valid, you cannot get angry if people do not agree, or even mock it. Even Jesus would mock you, after all he hung out with tax collectors and hookers, the 2 undesirables of the day.

Jesus forgives, something the frothing fundies always seem to miss. Turn the other cheek, how come you guys are so selective on your bible verses?

[August]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

By banning gay members from the start, it's the BSA itself that made it about sex.

Believe it or not our society hasn't always considered children to be sexual beings.

This is merely a case of an organization finally reversing foolish policies.

No this is a case of an organization that has bowed to political pressure by a vocal minority group.

[August]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Point, match, win.

In your mind maybe.

[garren]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Point, match, win.

If you think so.

[soopaman2]

I was gonna ask what ya meant by that statement but I read your next post.

So you think the scouts should be anti gay? Considering how you think they bowed to pressure, rather than doing what is right.

What makes a gay a lesser human, or worthy of exclusion?

You are almost agreeing with him, just wording your arguments better.

No vampires at least

If they recieve public money, it should stop. Then they can be as divisive as they want, just don't cry when they got no members due to being on par with the KKK when it comes to hate and exclusion of groups.

Because some invisible spook in the sky told you so, silly people.