Deadly Tornado strikes Oklahoma

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

its not like the eastern shores of Japan deal with tsunamis every 48 hours

its not as if central oklahoma deals with F5 tornadoes every few days

if this were the case i would wonder why people choose to live there.

No but one has to take into account that certain areas or rather locations on this earth are more high-risk, and as such have to be treated with careful consideration before deciding to build or buy in these high-risk areas.
As i pointed out earlier in this thread, Oklahoma is a high(or higher)-risk location.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

No but one has to take into account that certain areas or rather locations on this earth are more high-risk, and as such have to be treated with careful consideration before deciding to build or buy in these high-risk areas.
As i pointed out earlier in this thread, Oklahoma is a high(or higher)-risk location.

That's true in some areas, like the coast, because you know hurricanes hit. However, economics drive where people live. We have made great headway in buildings, warning systems, etc., that's about all you can do.
Even here in NC tornados are common, but usually in the F3 range. I've seen 4 in the last 15 years.

I don't know building codes in the plains area, but you would think in areas like Moore where few basements can be built due to soil, that safe rooms would be required in buildings like schools. It really wouldn't be that expensive to tornado proof restrooms or other rooms.

[soopaman2]

Such sadness and condolences.


I hope that relief funds are not politicized and delayed as much as it was for Sandy relief. My insurance company, FEMA........*mutters*

Heh, nevermind, if ya thought the storm was bad, wait until you actually try to collect on your insurance, or get help.

[Oberon]

I don't know how well the best tornado proof room will protect against debris from an EF5. Ideally, in an EF5, the best place to be is underground.

How difficult is the ground around Moore? Could heavy equipment be used to create large scale shelters in the school grounds? In the style of the air raid shelters we used to have in the cities during WWII. EF5s are rare yes, although Moore is particularly unlucky, but the schools should ideally have underground shelters. Still, all boils down to money, doesn't it?

Terrible day for Oklahoma.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I don't know how well the best tornado proof room will protect against debris from an EF5. Ideally, in an EF5, the best place to be is underground.

How difficult is the ground around Moore? Could heavy equipment be used to create large scale shelters in the school grounds? In the style of the air raid shelters we used to have in the cities during WWII. EF5s are rare yes, although Moore is particularly unlucky, but the schools should ideally have underground shelters. Still, all boils down to money, doesn't it?

Terrible day for Oklahoma.

The thing is these things pop up so fast, and even if you evacuated at every tornado watch, it would have a "boy who cried wolf" effect eventually.

Tornadoes are horrid weather phenominon, as the likelyhood can be predicted, but the location, path and size cannot.

And if you are there, you are just screwed.

Sad, but it is something people who live in "tornado alley" have to contend with, same as me with the occasional hurricane, or the more common nor'easter (which always destroys crap with storm surge, only with blizzard snow and wind, rather than rain and wind) same as people in Cali with quakes.

I have faith in the south, especially Okies

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

The thing is these things pop up so fast, and even if you evacuated at every tornado watch, it would have a "boy who cried wolf" effect eventually.

Tornadoes are horrid weather phenominon, as the likelyhood can be predicted, but the location, path and size cannot.

And if you are there, you are just screwed.

Sad, but it is something people who live in "tornado alley" have to contend with, same as me with the occasional hurricane, or the more common nor'easter (which always destroys crap with storm surge, only with blizzard snow and wind, rather than rain and wind) same as people in Cali with quakes.

I have faith in the south, especially Okies

Oh, aye, this is true, and this one in particular. In comparison to the track of the 1999 F5, this one came down and intensified a LOT closer to Moore than the other so the warning time was very short.

[desertstriker]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/21/us/sev...her/index.html

from CNN sounds like they found some of the children too and lowered the death count to 24..

[desertstriker]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/22/us..._20130521&_r=0

More news...

[Jimbuna]

Latest news in the UK is stating sources in the US are 98% certain their is nobody else in need of rescue.

[August]

Looks like the Okies have got hit with round two (save the Fox news comments):

Link: Multiple tornadoes touch down near Oklahoma City.

Prayers out to those folks.

[RickC Sniper]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I don't know how well the best tornado proof room will protect against debris from an EF5. Ideally, in an EF5, the best place to be is underground.

How difficult is the ground around Moore? Could heavy equipment be used to create large scale shelters in the school grounds?

The soil there is a red clay, and is very unfriendly to basements, or rooms underground.


http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...lahoma/276073/

[Jimbuna]

Been following this on the news since yesterday and words almost fail me...terribly tragic